yodoobo
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:26 PM
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How soon do you think we'll get healthcare? |
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I know he can't do it immediately or quickly, but anyone think we might be able to get healthcare this summer?
Theres alot of stuff I want to see fixed, but healthcare is pretty far up the list of priorities.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:27 PM
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1. As soon as we make it happen. |
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Congress will not do it if we do not threaten their jobs.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:28 PM
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6. I agree ... the best we have now is the opportunity to work our asses off to get it. |
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And yeah .... more political heads need to roll.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:44 PM
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22. exactly. if we can't be done now |
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Then how on Earth could it ever be done??
We've now got a the whitehouse, the house and the senate.
If we can bailout wallstreet for 600b within a few weeks, there we should be able to fix this healthcare problem within a few months.
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Tue Nov-04-08 06:04 PM
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26. Maybe Obama should do what Edwards threaten too do to Congress. |
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If they don't adopt his health care plan, he will rescind theirs until they give the rest of us what they have, at the very least. Works for me!
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:28 PM
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2. Probably not for years |
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Let's say, maybe by 2025, if all goes well.
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Wed Nov-05-08 12:22 PM
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Alot of good that will do anyone.
really, i can't imagine any reason why this couldn't be done before midterms.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:28 PM
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3. When Europe invades us to bring us democracy. nt |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:30 PM
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11. Kind of a reverse Iraq? |
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Kill'm so we can make'm healthy?
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:43 PM
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21. No, more like a save 'em from the Holocaust type thing. I'd love |
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for Europe to save us.
Iraq is just a Treasury-raping boondoggle.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:28 PM
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4. 9:00 CST, 9;30 tops. n/t |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:37 PM
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19. funny, but its a serious question |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:28 PM
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5. Don't hold your breath |
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Edited on Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM by nichomachus
The insurance companies and the healthcare corporations have very very very very deep pockets. They can bog this down until we're all dead. If you want health care by next summer -- start applying for residency in a civilized country, which is any of the other industrialized countries.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM
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8. don't hold your breath... remember, we're not only broke, but seriously in debt |
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and that is not going to go away over night.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM
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9. When we get a supermajority in both houses of Congress |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:29 PM
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10. I'd like a job first. |
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But I do have a root canal that is needed (and in the next month or so).
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:30 PM
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12. If we start now, we can have it by the end of next year. |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:32 PM
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15. It's a big deal to me too... |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:32 PM
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16. Well thats how I feel |
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I'm kinda shocked at the naysayers in this thread so far.
With the house, senate and whitehouse, theres no excuse to fix this.
In fact if we don't do it with in the next 2 years, its possible the opportunity may slip away again and for who knows how long.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:31 PM
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13. There are 535 members of congress and an army of lobbyists between us and healthcare |
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Sorry, but don't hold your breath
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:34 PM
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18. I don't think lobbyist are going to be as much of a factor |
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anymore. Thats the old washington.
Oh sure they'll still be talking, but if nobody is listening, then what effect can they have?
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:38 PM
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20. I tend to agree with Winebrat. |
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Obama hasn't come close to pushing for National Health care. Nobody did in the primaries.
No matter how the 'liberal media' likes to paint Democratic leadership as socialists, in fact, they are way to the right of most Americans on health care and some other issues.
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Wed Nov-05-08 12:29 PM
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35. Unfortunately we didn't get to vote out any lobbyists |
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We will get health care only if we work like crazy to get it because the lobbyists work every day against it.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:48 PM
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23. Government and Business.. |
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go hand in hand. When it works right government is a bridge between society and business, where both benefit from each other. Lobbyists are not bad if they and those they are trying to influence aren't corrupt. It's not all or nothing.
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:50 PM
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24. The "old washington"? How many incumbents will still hold their seats after tonight? |
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Not much has changed. I'm surprised that so many people think this country is suddenly going to turn into a utopia. It's not. We still have essentially the same idiots who do nothing but consider how they're going to get re-elected once they're sworn in. Healthcare might be on the horizon, but not before the mid-term elections in 2010 and probably not before the end of Obama's first term. I'd bet on that.
It's all about saying what you need to say to get elected, then re-elected. Old Washington indeed.
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Tue Nov-04-08 06:00 PM
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25. Quite a few. But we have captured the seat that is most important. |
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Of course its not going to be a utopia, but I do have faith that our future is far far brighter than it was.
If what you say is true, that healthcare won't be fixed before Obama's 1st term, I'll be shocked and saddened and maybe a bit angry.
As for the midterms, I think it is critical that the high priority legislation be passed before then. Otherwise, the window might slip away (mid terms aren't usually good for the party in power)
I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I'm very optimistic.
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Tue Nov-04-08 06:07 PM
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27. I agree with everything in your post. |
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But I will remain cynical until I see actual movement in the gubmint toward a solution.
I agree though, that our future is brighter than it was, in many respects.
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Tue Nov-04-08 06:21 PM
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29. Exactly. Just look at Congressional donations from health care companies. |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:32 PM
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14. pre-existing condition loophole first |
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easy to do.. no fed funds.. regulate fecking insurance companies
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Tue Nov-04-08 10:53 PM
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32. I'm all over that one. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 12:30 PM
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36. Yep, perfect first step. Need to show the industry there is a new sheriff in town |
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Tue Nov-04-08 05:33 PM
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17. The day he repeals the tax cuts for the wealthy. |
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My daughter and her family live in England and she is definitely not happy with England's national health insurance,the rich simply go to other doctors and pay extra,the "common"people are stuck with the "system".Just sayin
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Tue Nov-04-08 07:04 PM
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30. Soon, if Ted Kennedy has anything to say about it. |
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Ted Kennedy secretly crafts health care plan-Turns 'cause of his life' into '09 bipartisan bill http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4299062Go, Teddy, go.
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Tue Nov-04-08 10:51 PM
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31. nice thanks for the link nt |
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Wed Nov-05-08 12:24 PM
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34. Let's just say, don't plan on getting sick in the next 10 years. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 12:40 PM
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I don't see this happening until the country is in a better economy and there are more jobs.
I think health care reform will involve a lot of change in the insurance companies, and they employ a LOT of people. is not the time to reform a system and put a lot of people out of jobs??????
I think that more than anything else will keep healthcare OFF the table for a while.
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