Yo, Lieberfuck!

[tavalon]

We'll let you stay but you lose you chairmanships and you have to crawl on your knees and lick the boots of every other Democratic Senator. If you don't like that, then go be a Republican, you fascist freak!

Oh, and you will never, ever, be elected to another office, ever, ever, ever again. So enjoy your last few years and the few perks that we allow you. They won't be many, I promise you. And then you can go home to Connecticut, which is, by the way, no longer for Lieberman.

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[OrwellwasRight]

2. Lieberman: we don't need you,

we don't want you. You're an idiot. Bite us.

Love,

The Democratic Underground :evilgrin:

[Fridays Child]

3. Kick him to the curb. No forgiveness.

Fuck you, Lieberman.

[Eric J in MN]

4. Don't invite Lieberman to Democratic strategy meetings. NT

NT

[tavalon]

5. Someone needs to empty the trash and clean up the tables

after the meetings. I think we should let him do that. :evilgrin:

[tavalon]

41. Reid is supposed to decide about the chairmanships tomorrow.

[OmahaBlueDog]

6. Given what has been said elsewhere in this thread, I'm hesitant to suggest this..

Serious suggestion.

Given that Lieberman votes with us on many issues, but can't viably caucus with us any more, perhaps we could find another good use for him. Perhaps making him the Ambassador to Israel could be a win-win. It would be a highly appropriate position for him. He has been a steadfast ally of Israel in the Senate (which was part of the basis for his support for McCain). I think that would give him a lot of credibility in dealing with their government, and the fact that he has experience dealing with both US parties could make him very useful in the transition in foreign policy style you'll see in the new administration.

[Behind the Aegis]

7. Do you not see the difference?

Do you not see the difference in what you proposed and what the other proposal (and its support) was? While I may not agree with your suggestion, it doesn't imply the "dirty ole Jew should just go to Israel and I'll pack his bags."

[OmahaBlueDog]

8. I never suggested, nor would I suggest, that he should emmigrate

I would suggest that his presence in our caucus is probably no longer welcome, and that he'd find an uneasy home on the other side of the aisle. I'd like to find a way to get him out of the Senate (so we can put someone more to all of our liking into the seat). I really believe he could be a good ambassador to Israel, and I think he might find working to build lasting peace a job worthy of his time and talent.

[tavalon]

10. That's actually not a bad idea.

He doesn't have the sense to just leave the Senate on his own (though he will never again be elected to that Senate, he will still be there for 4 more years) and while I long for sand to be kicked in his eyes and great humiliation to be his fortune, I would also like to have someone else in his seat and if we could accomplish that before his term is over, I guess I could be big enough to let him have that. He would actually make a good ambassador to Israel (he sure makes a crappy Democratic Senator).

[Behind the Aegis]

11. And therein lies the difference in the proposals.

Funny, you never asked why I don't like your proposal.

[OmahaBlueDog]

13. My theory is that if you had wanted to discuss what you didn't like about my proposal...

..you'd have said something.

Why would making him ambassador (assuming he'd accept) be a bad idea?

[Behind the Aegis]

14. It would be a horrible idea.

He is too much of a hawk. While I don't relish the idea of Israel rolling over and playing dead to appease the masses, we certainly don't need someone who is a fear-monger and sees the "gun" as the first response.

[OmahaBlueDog]

19. I don't think anyone less-than a hawk can credibly discuss peace with Israel

I think Israel will accept Lieberman, and I think Biden (who will be the de facto Secretary of State) can keep him reined in.

[Behind the Aegis]

21. I don't believe that to be true.

Do you follow Israeli politics? While a certain sense of "hawkishness" might be needed, not at the level of Lieberman. Just has things are changing in our country, things are changing in Israel.

[OmahaBlueDog]

26. I'll concede that I don't follow it as closely as you do

[Behind the Aegis]

28. Livini.

Check her out.

[tavalon]

9. If you would brush that chip off your shoulder, you would see that this persecution complex

is in your head, not on the screen.

I hate Lieberman as much as I hate many Republicans. I want him to grovel and beg and then I want the Senate leadership to tell him to go fuck himself.

And not one bit of that has to do with his ethnic heritage. Not one single bit. He has behaved reprehensibly and unethically and that also has nothing to do with his ethnic heritage.

[calimary]

12. It's because lieberman is a traitor. A turncoat. Said "fuck you" to his party and

backed the enemy. He cast his lot with them. He took a risk. And unfortunately for him, it did NOT pay off. And now, it's gonna cost him.

You just HAD to love that fucking war, didn't you, Joe the Turncoat?

[Behind the Aegis]

15. No. I am quite familiar with this type of bullshit rhetoric.

[FDRJFKMLKRFKBHO11408]

16. Okay..

I'm curious, what role should Lieberman play in the next senate? Should the Democratic party continue to embrace him?

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Why should he play ANY role?

He is no longer a democrat. He turned his back on the party, we owe him NOTHING. He will vote with us on some things, but he is a hawk and we don't need his vote on a number of issues regarding Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and even Israel, in some cases. So, no, the Democratic Party has NO reason to embrace him, but that doesn't mean he should be shipped off to Israel nor should it even be implied.

[asteroid2003QQ47]

33. Lieberman should NOT be shipped to Israel!

Seize the little fuckers passport to ensure that he stays right here
and suffers a traitor's fate!

[moobu2]

18. How dare you, it's anti-Semitic to even ask that question

plus you're spreading bigotry, how dare you!!!! lol just kidding

[Behind the Aegis]

20. Would you know anti-Semitism if it bit you on the ass?

Or is it just a big joke for you?

[moobu2]

22. Your constant false accusations of anti-Semitism is the REAL joke

[Behind the Aegis]

23. Were that true, you might have a point.

But sadly, you have no point, only hollow accusations; the refuge of cowards.

[ExPatLeftist]

35. Hypocrite.

YOU are the one falsely accusing people here of being racists and anti-Semites. Now you accuse others of false accusations. Look in the mirror.

You also accuse others of not addressing any point, yet your only point seems to be the attacks. You are not talking about why Lieberman is great, why Zionism is "right" nor why you illogically equate anti-Zionism and anti Semitism. All you seem to be doing here is calling people that you do not know "anti-Semites", not discussing any topic at all. Hypocrisy twice in a very short post. Kudos - that is not so easy...

You seem to think that your opinion should be more valued than others' here. What gives you that right?

Remember, opinions are like assholes, every body has one and most of them smell.

BTW Can you answer this simple question for me: Is Zionism = Judaism?

[Behind the Aegis]

38. Reading comprehension. Try it.

Your post is nothing more than strawmen and ad hominems, much like your other post.

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[ForrestGump]

29. You certainly are

Indeed, you apparently specialize in that form of rhetoric.

[Behind the Aegis]

30. It is easy to spot.

Especially by those that give it a "pass."

[ExPatLeftist]

36. Or perhaps...

*gasp* people simply see it differently than you. But then, I would wager a guess that such an egalitarian notion has no place in your ego...

[Behind the Aegis]

39. Or perhaps...some give it a free pass and call it something else.

[Selatius]

24. I'd have to agree with Aegis that Lieberman is simply too incredibly hawkish to do any good.

His aggressive stance would afford him many fans in Likud but not Labor. He would only polarize any situation he walks into, and if he makes statements contrary to what Obama-Biden say in public with relation to the Middle East, it would be an embarrassment to the Obama Administration.

[FDRJFKMLKRFKBHO11408]

25. I agree..

At this point, the best thing to do is ignore him. Let him serve out his time as an independent and then fade into obscurity.

[Behind the Aegis]

27. Thank you.

We don't often agree in this arena, but considering the changes happening in Israel, appointing someone like Lieberman would only be pouring oil on the fire. Why not someone like Ellison? Everything I have seen from him has been "pro-Israeli," but not to the point of aggressive hate-mongering. Though, I would hate to lose him as a representative because he is liberal. Appointing Lieberman to such a post would be like appointing O'Reily as goodwill ambassador..well..to anywhere. :)

[TWiley]

31. Brilliant Boy jumped aboard a sinking ship

Now, he gets to drown with the other rats.

[SoCalDem]

32. John, JoeMentum & Little Lindsay, the Three BFFs

need to have their desks moved into a closet..and get NO committee assignments and definitely no chairmanships for Joementum..

[workinclasszero]

34. LIEberman is a big, fat, ZERO!

How's that crow breakfast this morning Joe? :rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. Here's your new office. The brooms and mops have to stay. n/t

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