Why should John McCain be allowed to keep his dignity?

[Joe Fields]

When you consider that he ran as nasty of a campaign as I've witnessed...

When he instilled fear into the hearts and minds of Americans, tying Obama to "terrorists" and "renegade America hating" preachers...

When he played on people's prejudices, by consistently reminding voters of Barack's middle name...

When he has been nothing more than a boozing, womanizing military fuck-up, who is literally in bed with lobbyists....


Tell me why we should pretend that it was all in the heat and spirit of a campaign, look the other way, forgive this dottering, dangerous old bigot....

Anybody?

[leftofcool]

1. You won, get over it

[AuntPatsy]

25. Get over what??

[maxsolomon]

2. because we're feeling magnanimous?

well, not me, but others are. i hear tell.

[TNOE]

3. Because its over

and he lost, their negative campaigning didn't work and will probably never work again in the future - and its not what Obama wants our party to be about.

In his words:

ENOUGH!

[Joe Fields]

6. The Obama campaign does not control the media...

and it is the media and pundits who have bent over backwards to defend McCain's "war hero" myth. Not only have they, almost to a person, defend his military mythology, but now many are saying that he ran a decent and honorable campaign.

What Obama's plan for governance is has nothing to do with it.

[TNOE]

17. I just think its best

to leave the old bitterness in the past - and tune away from it now. Frankly, America spoke. Loud and Clear. And right now, to me, that's all that matters. We won. America won. Hopefully, sooner, rather than later - we can just tune out the negativity and lies.

[Virginia Dare]

4. McCain's actions will speak louder than his words at this point..

it will be interesting to see what he does from this point on in his career.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

14. i suspect we might well see the McCain of 2000 again

who was an admirable guy. I must say that the man looked like he was putting down the weight of the world last night when he conceded. I think he wants to find some of his old self again. Not that he was ever any angel, but he's not as bad as he behaved in the last five months. If President-Elect Obama (my does that feel good to type) can be magnanimous, so can we.

[Virginia Dare]

38. I think candidate McCain probably died last night...

good riddance to him too.

[Mike Daniels]

16. Since he's not beholden to anyone at this point it will be interesting to see what he does

I imagine he's going to do what he feels is right on certain issues even if it pisses off his party.

He's not likely to run again so he can basically really go "maverick" if he desires.

[Idealism]

5. Because exiling McCain

would NOT help heal this nation of the wounds that many on the Republican side have helped foster. It is counterproductive to the idea of change and I hope we all realize this

[Roy]

7. Maybe because he asked in a very concillatory speech?

We all know Repubs have no control over their campaigns, speeches, their votes nor opinion on issues.

I don't like McCain, never did, but I felt like when he saw the venom spewing from the crowds, he was not very proud of being a republican.

But, alas he was locked in at that point.

[knowbody0]

8. don't forget

just forgive the ignorant impotent bottom feeding magot and move on. Losing to a Black man is like the worse punishment for a guy like him.

[Joe Fields]

10. lol..and losing in a big way...

[crickets]

32. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy -

not after that campaign. The media can try all they like to spin myths after the fact, but those ugly campaign speeches and the heckles to his own concession speech are all on video, baby. The reality will never go away. Yech.

[zbdent]

9. I thought he already relinquished it when the Religious Right waved a dollar bill

in front of him ...

[damntexdem]

11. He's not being allowed to keep it -- he plainly threw it away in the public eye.

That's true, no matter how some try to paper over it.

[Mike Daniels]

12. George HW Bush savaged Clinton during their campaign

That didn't stop them from forming what seems to be a sincere friendship in the years since then.

I suppose you're going to pop a vein if Obama reaches out to McCain for assistance in the future or vice versa and the other accepts the offer?

[Joe Fields]

19. I won't particularly like it, but I'm pragmatic enough to understand if he does.

And I'm sure he will reach out. McCain may end up being toast in his own party anyway.

Obama has more reason to be magnanimous toward McCain than the rest of the country, media and pundits included. While I felt that Obama ran a textbook campaign, one that may be studied by scholars, I felt that McCain ran a gutter campaign, and the overall strategy was amateurish. His below the belt attacks were WAAAAAY over the line.

[Virginia Dare]

39. He'll probably run back to the moderates in his party..

who won't blame him, but will blame dubya and Sarah for the debacle.

[blm]

45. GHWBush never savaged Clinton in the 92 campaign, and vice versa.

GHWBush ran an incompetent campaign because he NEEDED to lose or face certain impeachment when BCCI report came out in Dec 1992.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. sincere friendship?

:rofl:

[Skittles]

13. he shouldn't

that bastard sniffed bush ass for eight years - he can rot in hell

[MrCoffee]

26. This is the correct answer

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.



Is it wrong to refer to Caribou Barbie as a horse?

[Skittles]

50. correcting your answer

that bastard was as phony a cowboy and Texan as he was a president - he doesn't ride horses - fuck him and the elephant he rode in on

[cynatnite]

15. It's over. n/t

[Taverner]

18. Because he will go away faster

[Oregone]

20. He has...dignity?

[Joe Fields]

23. like everything else about him, it's fake.

[Generator]

21. Because in the end he's a pathetic loser

He was punked by Bush/Cheney-he was stupid enough to think kissing up to them was his way to victory. Yes, it's evil but he has never had a chance. I feel sorry for such pathetic clueless types. But only after he has LOST big. Now be a "maverick" and kiss up to Obama for eight years, John. It's the least you can do.

[Stinky The Clown]

22. Emphatically no .... and here, in small part, is one reason why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4382199

[Joe Fields]

27. nice, insightful replay. agree totally.

[stillcool]

24. he has no dignity to keep...

and that is his cross to bear.

[pitohui]

28. he's got no dignity to keep

forget him, he's an irrelevant footnote to history now

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. He has left millions of people believing lies about our new President and also through his surrogate

instilled HATE. There is great deal of damage in his wake.

[Joe Fields]

40. I'm honestly not a veangeful man, but I do think that his actions,

and the actions of Palin and their surrogates should have consequences. Maybe time will sort things out. Clearly many more people than used to now see McCain in a totally different light.

[lonestarnot]

30. Who said he had any to keep?

[southernyankeebelle]

31. Wow

I am a die hard democrat. If Obama can put his hand out for this country so can we. Lets put this behind us. Obama is right this is america not red, not blue but america. Come on people lets act like it. We are better than the extreme on the right.

[Joe Fields]

51. Actions have consequences.

God and Obama may forgive, but I sure as hell don't have to. What McCain and Palin did was an abomination to all Americans.

[ogneopasno]

33. KEEP his dignity? He just got trounced on the international stage, and the whole world celebrated.

He has no dignity left. The vote itself was a rejection of his ideas, strategies and vision for the future, as well as a rejection of his very person. So he's done now. He can go fade into obscurity now, the way all humiliated bigots do.

[cobalt1999]

34. Because HE didn't do any of those things.

His campaign controllers & advisers did. He allowed much of it to happen, but he was as much of a victim to those vile people as anyone.

He sold his soul to them for victory and they didn't care. They wanted to introduce Palin to the world and permanently get rid of the guy who pissed them off over the years.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

43. Yeah, he did.

He constantly brough up Ayers. Right at the debates.

[EFerrari]

35. What dignity? n/t

[hunter]

36. Bush smothered the last of John McCain's dignity when he hugged him.

Let the poor spineless fellow leave the stage gracefully.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

44. That and the Katrina birthday cake are where McCain sold himself down the river

he could never recover.

[Bake]

37. Because he's irrelevant now. That's why.

McCain doesn't matter any more. He is no longer the leader of the Pugs. He was the LOSER in this campaign, and nobody likes a loser. Least of all the Repugs.

He'll go back to the Senate and finish out his term and probably retire.

If I'm WRONG, on the other hand, and he tries to stir up a shitstorm of opposition to the Obama and the Dems, all bets are off.

Bake

[yodoobo]

41. Its a simple decision. Unify the nation, or ostracize the losers

We can do either, can't really do both.

[onenote]

42. Because the message of Obama's campaign was change

not repeating the same bullshit that the repubs have used against us.

[Disturbed]

47. "He allowed much of it to happen,"

McLame is an asshole & has always been an asshole.

[Swamp Rat]

48. Keep what dignity?

[deaniac21]

49. He should be executed immediately.