Gore1FL
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:19 PM
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Poll question: First Public Work Project?: |
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Option 1: Wind
Thousands put to work creating the material to assemble and install windmills across America, along with concentrated wind farms.
Option 2: Solar Panel Initiative
Thousands put to work installing Solar panels on homes and businesses across the country. The consumer "buys" the panel through government loan, and pays it off by the monthly amount of the energy savings.
Option 3: Arbor Year
Thousands put to work planting along highways improving the Environment and the aesthetics of national land.
Option 4: South Western Solar Panel Farm
Thousands put to work manufacturing and installing solar panels used in a 100-400 square mile solar farm.
Option 5: Infrastructure
Thousands put to work repairing the country's vital infrastructure. Rebuild bridges. Upgrade roads. Build/Improve mass transit systems, High speed rail etc.
Option 6: School Renewal
Thousands put to work repairing and building schools to replace outdated and deteriorated Public schools, starting with the worst.
Option 7: Some Other Public Works Project
You tell me!
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:20 PM
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1. Schools first, everything else later |
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:21 PM
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:24 PM
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3. We'd be better off having illegal immigrants do that! n/t |
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:25 PM
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Our countries infrastructure is crumbling around us.
Roads. Bridges. Underground utilities.
A massive push to rebuild our infrastructure would give a huge boost to the economy, and prepare the country for the next 100 years.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:28 PM
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I picked Infrastructure first because number one it will effect the whole country and number two without good roads and bridges and transit the rest of the stuff becomes more difficult. I would say the other two ideas that I would say tie for a very close second are the Solar and School programs. I like the simplicity of the solar panel being paid off based on the savings it generates. Of course, upgrading and adding to the number of schools in this country is essential as well. You must have top class facilities to help the teachers and students achieve at the highest levels. I think the trick for President Obama and his people will be to prioritize but not necessarily with the idea that you can only do one thing at a time. While implementing the highest priority they should already be in the planning stages for future programs. As we all know until he can get a hold on the economy so that we at least see 'the light at the end of the tunnel' it is going to be very difficult to implement any of these programs.It is not President Obama's job to pull of miracles but to build or rebuild the foundations that allow us to solve our problems and move into the future together.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:35 PM
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6. A Department of Cost Over-runs |
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to be alert to swindles. I guess that would be called a regulatory agency that works for the people rather than the humongous corporations with their hands out for all that loot.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:36 PM
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7. Other: trillions to Wall Street investment firms to shore up Bonus funds. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:38 PM
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8. I don;t want to vote in my own poll,so I won't.. but here is my perspective: |
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Infrastructure has to be the first step,or the others won't happen as effectively. Start in SW and MW to enable the Wind and Solar farms in the future
Arbor year would go hand in hand with some of that, (though planting on other land would come later
Neither the Wind nor Solar farms can happen right off, but the public canbe made aware of what is coming so businesses and factories can gear up. The same is likely true of the Solar panel initiative.
Implement the School renewal shortly after the infrastructure one kicks off and is going.
Prepare the wind and solar farm land so they are ready when the products start rolling off the assembly line.
Initiate the Solar initiative
Finish Arbor Year
Complete Farms.
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I'd really like to see an "Apollo Program" on new automobile technology to put Autoworkers back to work-But that isn't a public work program.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:50 PM
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10. "apollo program" on new automobile technology- i see this as even more vital than high-speed rail. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 02:50 PM by QuestionAll
our infrastructure and our society is already built around the auto- and that would be a VERY difficult transition.
i'm not saying we should abandon the idea of high-speed rail- there are definitely markets where it might work and be feasible. for instance- using chicago as a hub for some regional lines(and forgoing an airport in peotone) to madison/minneapolis, kansas city/denver, springfield/st.louis, detroit/toronto, indianapolis/cincinnati, could be some starter lines, and then continuing on or branching out from those destinations to connect with other regional hubs, until a nationwide network is formed.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:44 PM
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I would vote for the wind options out of the above options. Probably because it is the least expensive and might actually work.
But as to most of the other ones, where is the money gonne come from?
I am from blue NJ. NJ spends and spends and spends on much of this stuff. Billions and Billions on new schools in the worst areas. Billions in transportation funds. And all it has gotten us is lots of debt. Of course our poor inner city kids do get to go to new schools, but they still don't graduate or learn anything.
The solar panel ones are kinda interesting, but aren't there ALREADY tax credits and other incentives to install solar panels?
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:59 PM
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11. There are tax credits and incentives |
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But what I like about this, is that they are effectively free to the end user. The pay back on that may be years, but it creates jobs, and stops the need for huge expenditures on coal plants, so in once since the payback is pretty quick.
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:13 PM
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How is it free for the end user? They still have to pay back the loan.
I could see people possibly doing this on new construction, but I don't think most people would retro fit their existing house. There are already incentives for this, and people don't take advantage of it, so why would they take loans to do it?
And how and who is going to calculate the monthly savings?
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:19 PM
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16. They won't pay any more per month |
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and when the panels pays for itself, they get the savings each month.
The government makes the money back with interest, In the long term the consumer makes money after the government recoups.
That's a win for everyone involved, including the energy company.
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:03 PM
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13. Lemme guess who you voted for ...... |
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The giveaway line: "Of course our poor inner city kids do get to go to new schools, but they still don't graduate or learn anything."
Bite me.
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:11 PM
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Why should I bite you?
What is factually wrong with my statement?
Do you live in NJ? Do you know how much money this state spends on the Abbot districts? Do you know how many brand new schools have been built in Newark in the last 20 years, and how poor the students still do.
I should have been a little more specific and said that education money may be better spent on areas OTHER than physical schools. It is obvious to me that the problem in the poor areas on NJ are NOT the actual schools that the kids go to. Having new facilities have NOT made a difference in these cities.
Care to disprove that?
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:01 PM
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build the gallows!
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:20 PM
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17. NEW LEVEES FOR NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! |
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NEW LEVEES FOR NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!!
NEW LEVEES FOR NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!!
NEW LEVEES FOR NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!!
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:21 PM
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18. insulating buildings & upgrading furnaces from oil to gas |
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will reduce energy consumption the most.
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