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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:56 PM
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Same-sex marriage is inevitable at this point
It's kind of like we're at the point where segregation was just falling apart. There came a point where nothing was going to stop desegregation. Regardless of how any individuals or states felt about it, it was simply going to happen, and soon.

We just have to keep hammering away. Gay people who want to get married need to keep getting married wherever they can, and the rest of us need to keep supporting them by giving money to groups trying to help that cause and by talking about it with people we know and letting our feelings be public.

I know it's frustrating that what we hoped would happen didn't last night, but the tide has turned here. It won't be too long and same-sex marriage will be a given. We just have to keep moving forward.

What we DON'T need is to capitulate, move backward, or anything like that. We don't need to change our direction and try to get a second-tier marriage-ish thing for gay people. We don't need to get rid of the institution of marriage, which is exactly what the right-wing has been worried about anyway. We just need to keep moving.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:00 PM
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1. Just like Loving v. Virginia but this is moving a much greater pace
Which is good

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)<1>, was a landmark civil rights case in which the United States Supreme Court declared Virginia's anti-miscegenation statute, the "Racial Integrity Act of 1924", unconstitutional, thereby overturning Pace v. Alabama (1883) and ending all race-based legal restrictions on marriage in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:06 PM
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2. Exactly.
This is losing a battle but the war will be won because it is inevitable.

Right now those against it are building sand castles against the incoming tide. Not that what happened is good, but the fact these amendments are even on the ballot in the first place shows how much things are changing.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:06 PM
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3. Yes it is.
The way Prop Hate was passed is a sign of that.

Young people voted against it.

Hate-filled churches funded ads filled with fear and lies.

A court oblivious to all those kinds of outside influences will overturn Prop Hate.

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:08 PM
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4. I think, too, it will take talking to people who could be swayed more to our side.
I have a family member who is great with civil unions, but just can't wrap her brain around marriage. I don't know why. But I do know that I can ask them, but I need to do this in the spirit of trying to understand them first, and where they are coming from, and then go to their starting point. If we all did this with one or two people, there would be a tidal wave of change. But we have to hold our nose and wade into the sewer to bring these people over.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 08:13 PM
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5. That's what I'm telling myself...
...to make last night somehow okay. I just don't like that it's going to happen over the nominal objection of our candidates, for whom I worked pretty hard. :blush:
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