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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:17 AM
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Looks like we're going to get our wish. Extreme Right Wing of GOP hinting at radical changes.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 11:22 AM by ck4829
Tomorrow, Beltway Conservatives Meet To Plan A Comeback.

20 leading conservatives will gather Thursday at the home of Media Research Center chairman Brent Bozell.

"There will be about twenty key leaders attending who are either top fundraisers or grassroots organizers, along with several political strategists," says Keith Appell, a Republican consultant who helped to organize the meeting.

Other attendees include Leonard Leo, the executive vice president of the Federalist Society and an adviser to the Bush White House on judicial and Catholic issues, Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/tomorrow_beltway_conservatives.php

Well, what did the right wing whackos talk about?

Here are some clues:

"The liberal wing of the GOP has caused the collapse of the Republican Party. It is no longer a viable player in the political conversation, and deservedly so: For a decade it has spat on the values of Ronald Reagan. Conservatives let it be known on Tuesday in races all over the country that it has had enough with the betrayal."
- Brent Bozell

"The Republican party and the conservative movement had bad election nights in 1964, 1976, and 1992. We came back from each of those defeats. What's required now is a great deal of work on the part of those who want to promote liberty."
- Grover Norquist

The tired out, old GOP leadership offers little, but the conservative movement has the resources and the people to regroup, which it will, but we must re-establish the importance of first principles. The idea of big-government conservatism was always viewed with skepticism by true conservatives, and few now doubt that it has been completely rejected. ... This was not a rejection of true conservatism, it was a rejection of the Bush Administration and inadequate leadership."
- Al Regnery, Publisher, The American Spectator

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/to_the_read_the_results_is_it.php

What will we see next; hostile takeover, abandonment of the Republican Party, right wingers unite and create a new Party, something else?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:20 AM
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1. Hey don't leave David Duke out, he's a proud christian conservative republican
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:21 AM
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2. Sounds like the idiots want to go further right...
knock yourselves out, I say!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:25 AM
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4. They're not going further right...
They're going further wrong...

Reach for that golden ring, fellas!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:23 AM
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3. They don't get it. They never will.
Those quoted above brought about the fact that the Republican Party is now on life support, and now they're going to "fix" it? I couldn't be happier. Let them "reform" all they like -- it's not going to help them. They pandered to the fundies with the choice of Sarah Palin; they allowed the Bush administration to run up debt that our grandchildren will be paying off. Their party is doomed to failure for at least the next 20 years.

Any rational, thinking person left the Republicans a long time ago. They're not coming back.

Julie
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:41 PM
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20. They structure their platform to get votes, not to serve their constituents.
The goals of their party are to get all the money and votes and politics are merely their tools of greed. Their so-called political agenda is merely a business strategy in disguise.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:30 AM
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5. The "liberal wing of the GOP caused the collapse of the Republican Party"....
Oh, yeah -thats the ticket- the "liberal wing of the GOP" is the problem, and NOT the dumbass fundie extremists. :rofl:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:54 PM
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22. Darn you Snowe and Collins! *shaking fist*
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:32 AM
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6. translation:
"That Bush guy? We were never big fans of him in the first place"


revisionist ass-covering
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:32 AM
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7. Have it it. Divide and FAIL.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:33 AM
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8. "Liberal Wing of the GOP"
:rofl:

Rp
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:35 AM
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9. The "liberal wing" of the GOP? Does Bozell mean the moderates?
I'm afraid that like the Dems, moderates make up the vast proportion of the Repub Party and IMHO it's Bush**, the neocons and the RW Christian extremist element that sent many of them to Obama.

I very much hope these bozos don't realize that THEY are the enemy they seek.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:37 AM
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11. Brent Bozell's definition of a "liberal"
"Someone who is, even on one issue, and even disagrees with me in the slightest, is one of those Godless, never-can-win-elections, socialist liberals!"
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:58 PM
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23. They think Arlen Specter is a liberal, and they thought McCain was a Democrat
in disguise.

They were very upset with the GOP presidential primary candidates - there was NO candidate they felt was conservative enough. If they are the GOP of the future, they will continue to lose BIG.

They think McCain lost because he was too leftist!


mark
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:45 PM
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34. I really hope they're in charge
Because they're so deluded it's hysterical. I mean, consider how Bush** was first elected: he portrayed himself as a fairly regular moderate Repub. The joke was on everyone who voted for him -- except those who fancy themselves Uber Neocon Crusaders.

"If they are the GOP of the future, they will continue to lose BIG."

Something worth hoping for. Or that there's such backlash the party splinters. Either would be a fitting end to the GOP for some time to come.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:19 PM
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35. I believe they are splintering right now - they need to blame and feel anger
for their losses, and of course they cannot accept that they could be wrong. They will go so far th the right no sane person would want to associate with them, and they will keep it up because they BELIEVE they are right and cannot be wrong.

mark
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:35 AM
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10. Maybe Norquist will invite Joe the Plumper. Seems like they
both want to flush government down the drain (except that time Joe was on welfare).
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:37 AM
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12. More Jesus, less policy please. And feel free to peel off some of our religious wackjobs, too. (nt)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:41 AM
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13. Wanna bet that next time more of that 'liberal wing of the GOP' will vote Democratic? Keep it up
boys and all you're gonna have left are the whackos!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:41 AM
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14. Is Joe the Plumber invited?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:42 AM
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15. I'm rooting for the God Boys to win
Turn the core of what's left even further into the hands of the fundie nutjobs, and completely lose moderates and fiscal conservatives to the Democratic Party.

Lose the middle by alienating them will turn the Republican Party in the Party Of God-Botherers, and be a permanent minority.

Already a sound strategy. I say go for it, dudes.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:44 AM
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16. They've sowed so much division...
they've divided themselves. Love it!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 11:48 AM
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17. I hope they eat themselves alive.
they pretty much did it to themselves.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:07 PM
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18. "This was not a rejection of true conservatism, it was a rejection of the Bush Administration"
Wrong. The Bush maladministration was the one that was most faithful to all the wingnut mantras of deregulation, privatization and global hostility. This was their big chance, and it failed utterly.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 12:16 PM
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19. This is political suicide given the demographic changes in the US.
I sincerely hope they will succeed in turning their party into an openly fascist/theocratic entity. They will make the Repuke party irrelevant for 10-40 years. Hey Pukes, the majority of this country is getting younger, browner and more tolerant. There is no ground there for you to plow. Make sure you get up to a full run before you go over that cliff. Buh-bye.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:41 PM
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21. i don't think it's so good. extremist split-offs speak of weimar syndrome.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:59 PM
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24. Yeah, go even more batshit crazy right-wing.
That'll ensure your demise, GOP.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:02 PM
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25. Reagan's bullshit is no longer relevant. They need some new ideals.
PNAC fucked up, Reagonomics fucked up BIG TIME, and we're just now seeing their far reaching effects. If they dont abandon these ideals, they'll keep loosing every time. Which is a good thing.
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Baldameer Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:08 PM
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26. They all need to be visited by a clinical psychologist.
Heres hoping that the Democrats, Libertarians, and moderate Republicans keep these freepers out of power.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:24 PM
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29. Certainly true.
The GOP seems like it keeps standing by their "same shit, different day" style. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the textbook definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? :rofl:
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:12 PM
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27. If, somehow, there WERE any liberals in the GOP, we've got a spot for you over here.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 04:13 PM by VoodooGuru
Meanwhile, these people still think it's 1968 or something.

Let 'em.

Actually no. I can't resist this:

Regnery, Bozell, Norquist, you ARE the tired old leadership now. Retire.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:14 PM
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28. Reminds me of the Bailout
Putting the wrecking crew in charge of rebuilding.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:35 PM
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30. Grover forgot to mention the bad election nights of 1912 and 1932.
Every time the GOP loses like this they confidently tack further to the right with the grand poobahs of business firmly leading the way. It has worked for them all through the 20th century. Let's see what the new one does for them. Global economics and the need for political pragmatism may be their undoing. They will limp along until they figure something out...or perhaps not. Their problem is they really have no where else to go.

:evilgrin:
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LesserFool Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:41 PM
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31. It's called cognitive dissonance
It's called cognitive dissonance.

They cannot face the prospect that their experiment failed and the American people have acknowledged that fact with their vote.

But, they refuse to admit of the possibility that they may be too out-of-touch, extreme or irrelevant.

The American population is changing. The ways of the world are changing - economics, culture, communications, technology, etc.

But, these conservatives are doing what conservatives do best - stand against the headwind of change, thinking they can stop it.

But, it isn't going to stop. And they are going to keep losing until they grow up and face reality; or they will fade into oblivion.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:48 PM
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32. I hope they don't look to Limbaugh for advice.



The more controversial and the more disrupted things are in their party means the more
it suits his personal agenda. He has always wanted to appear to be their Pied Piper.
He would just want to keep things in a state of disarray in the GOP.







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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 04:52 PM
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33. Oh marvelous.
Let them do this and further alienate most of the US population!

Deluded idiots.
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