One More Time -- under the law -- federal law

[xchrom]

marriage IS NOT RELIGIOUS.

except some few of you -- not unlke conservatives -- who want to say it is.

all LGBTIQ people need is for the courts to stand aside and recognize all our inherent rights.

that's it -- that's all.

civil union isn't coming -- nope not gonna happenand no need to make all the changes necessary for that.

you don't have to like it -- but much simpler to
make it clear that gender restrictions are removed.

[TomInTib]

1. Hey, xchrom...

What does "IQ" designate in GLBTIQ?

I don't want to be too far out of the loop.

Thanks,
Tom

[eleny]

3. Intersex/queer/questioning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLBTIQ

I had to find out, too. :hi:

[TomInTib]

18. Well, that's two of us, eleny.

Thanks,
T.

[gratuitous]

4. I is for intersexed; Q is for questioning

Or so I'm told.

[xchrom]

5. intesexed{hermaphrodite{, queer and questing.

and i'm one who thinks all these categories are important.

ew are not racial minorities -- we are not a crew who under most circumstances have our families by our side.

so -- who are our families? -- well this is just an imperfect attempt to describe the variety of 'us'.

[TomInTib]

17. Thanks, xchrom

I don't want to appear too out-of-step.

Tom

[xchrom]

28. dude -- the coolest guy i've EVAH seen around

here can't be too out of step.

:toast:

we should have beers some time -- i am in the hood.

[TomInTib]

31. Inbox

[eleny]

2. Equal protection seems like a no brainer here

K&R

[tavalon]

7. It seems that we have to learn this lesson over and over again, unfortunately.

[KitchenWitch]

6. Once more...WITH FEELING.

Good post.

[xchrom]

8. thanks kitchenwitch -- i appreciate that. nt

[Solly Mack]

9. It really is just that simple

[kdmorris]

10. If it WERE religious

then nobody would have to get a damned MARRIAGE LICENSE from the GOVT.

People that spout that bullshit are idiots. Marriage is not a religious institution. It is controlled by the government and the government has determined that clergy can marry people...AFTER they get a government issued marriage license.

[xchrom]

11. damn -- i wanna brand that into peoples foreheads -- liberal and conservatives. nt

[kdmorris]

13. No kidding!

I about had a stroke the first time I heard that little piece of crap.

[LostinVA]

24. It is "nothing" more than a LEGAL CONTRACT

A contract that gives very important rights.

[kdmorris]

26. Indeed n/t

[Liberalynn]

12. Exactly

If marriage is strictly a religious institution and not subject to federal law, then every married straight person in the U.S. needs to give up their marriage deduction provided by the IRS, a U.S. Federal Government agency, not the last time I checked a religious institution.

How many do you think will be willing to do that? My bet is zip.

Till then they need to stay out of other peoples lives and get their religion out of the U.S. Government's Constitution.


Straight and Single.

[xchrom]

14. thank -- especially as a gay and SINGLE guy. nt

[Liberalynn]

15. You are most welcome

:hug:

[xchrom]

16. kick

[xchrom]

19. kick

[AlCzervik]

20. My sister and her husband were married at city hall, they got a Marriage certificate and not

a civil union certificate. Equal rights for all.

[Uncle Joe]

21. That's correct, a Justice of the Peace or Captain of a ship can marry someone

and they don't call that a civil union.

[Foolacious]

32. So can the mayor

of the town in which you get married. That's what we did.

[IndianaJones]

22. I got married in Vegas with no clergy or church in sight. nt.

[LostinVA]

23. Correct -- "marriage" is the legal term

Straight folks aren't going to let their marriages be demoted anytime soon, so why the hell should WE have to settle for second best? And, most GLBTers don't even have that.

[xchrom]

25. kick

[xchrom]

27. kick

[Why Syzygy]

29. It isn't complicated either. EVERYONE has the same rights.

That's the only way to remain a free country. I'm ashamed we are still denying civil rights in the 21st century of USofA.

[xchrom]

30. kick

[freethought gal]

33. Thank You

:kick: