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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:05 AM
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Agreement to end Iraqi war to be signed due to Obama win!
Now That Obama’s Elected, Iraq Will Sign Basing Deal
By Spencer Ackerman 11/7/08 9:11 AM


Barely a week ago, the Iraqi government was refusing to sign a status of forces agreement with the U.S. military, despite the agreement’s guarantee of a full-scale troop withdrawal by 2011. Prominent Iraqi dignitaries were talking about scrapping the document entirely and securing another 12-month U.N. mandate for the occupation.

The discussion bogged down so much that Gen. Ray Odierno, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, practically threatened to take his toys and go home.

Then, on Tuesday, Barack Obama was elected president of the United States. And lo, the waters have parted. Reports The New York Times:

Barack Obama may have been elected only three days ago, but his victory is already beginning to shift the political ground in Iraq and the region.

Iraqi Shiite politicians are indicating that they will move faster toward a new security agreement about American troops, and a Bush administration official said he believed that Iraqis could ratify the agreement as early as the middle of this month.

“Before, the Iraqis were thinking that if they sign the pact, there will be no respect for the schedule of troop withdrawal by Dec. 31, 2011,” said Hadi al-Ameri, a powerful member of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, a major Shiite party. “If Republicans were still there, there would be no respect for this timetable. This is a positive step to have the same theory about the timetable as Mr. Obama.”


And Ameri is right. Sen. John McCain, when asked about the so-called SOFA, misrepresented its withdrawal guarantee on CNN. If you were an Iraqi negotiator and you heard the potential next president of the United States do that, why would you have any faith in your interlocutor? The blogger Swopa made this point in May.

OK, substantive comment: the agreement really does guarantee U.S. troop withdrawal by 2011 and U.S. withdrawal from Iraqi cities and towns by next spring. In other words, it ends the war, and ends it in stages.

Obama won’t be able to enter office with the Iraq problem solved. But it will be well on its way to being solved. The strategic framework for his desired withdrawal will be in place. And since he and the Iraqi government see eye to eye on the issue, Obama will have the credibility in place to work toward a political compact among the different Iraqi factions — something the Bush administration hasn’t ever had and a McCain administration wouldn’t ever have had.

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http://washingtonindependent.com/17561/now-that-obamas-elected-iraq-will-sign-basing-deal
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:24 AM
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1. The article suggests
that Iraq has accepted the agreement and I don't believe that to be true. No mention is made of the other two main issues : Iraq's ability to prosecute foreign nationals and their unwillingness to allow Iraq to be used by the USA as a base to attack adjacent countries.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:33 AM
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2. You're right, it's not a done deal yet, but we may be a lot closer
with Obama at the helm. Here's the NYT article if you didn't read it. The tone is different, in a good way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/world/middleeast/07iraq.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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