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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:07 AM
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Mark Morford on Prop 8
It's God's fault
The cruel success of Prop. 8? Not Newsom, not gays. Blame You Know Who

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Michigan just legalized medical pot. Liddy Dole is gone. John Sununu is gone. The Dems picked up at least six Senate seats. North Carolina went blue for the first time in more than three decades. A teen girl in California, for the third time now, won't be forced to notify her parents if she wants an abortion.

South Dakota easily beat back, for the second time, the most repellent anti-choice legislation in the nation. Colorado was close behind, trouncing an insidious proposition that would've deemed a zygote a whole little person. California will get high-speed rail. The smart black dude actually won.

It's almost a grand sweep. It's almost the most forward-thinking, thoroughly stunning election in American history, so much dead wood and so many old evangelical poisons swept from the national dialogue, it's as though we just swallowed a grand emetic of possibility, and purged like never before.

Almost.

Amid the glory and the disbelief and the Obamapalooza, the thorn. The nail in the pudding. The kidney punch during the massage.

Some say the inglorious success of Prop. 8, the brutally regressive measure that removes the rights of very specific people who love very specific other people from ever marrying them, can be blamed on multiple factors.

Some say it was Gavin Newsom's smugness and political recklessness. Some blame Feinstein for daring to support Prop. 8's defeat. Some blame the black and Latino communities for their shocking and rather heartbreaking support of what essentially amounts to a civil rights abuse of the very kind they themselves fought so hard to overcome.

Or maybe it's all those sad, white, central portions of the state, the huge chunks of voters who live in places without much culture or perspective or major universities, who only hear certain strains of spiteful rhetoric and thin fearmongering, whose general lack of education means they apparently still believe certain flavors of love will poison everyone's soup and ruin the sanctity of the time-honored 50-percent heterosexual missionary position Christian divorce rate.

And I must say (and you might not want to hear this), a big chunk of blame for 8's passage has to go to the No on 8 campaign's initial arrogance, followed by their utterly limp reaction when the Yes campaign started attacking and gaining real steam. As one of my politically savvy Chronicle colleagues put it, "No on 8 was a bad campaign. Bad bad bad. Inept, amateurish, incompetent and, above all, guilty of committing the first and worst sin of politics: taking the voters for granted."

But I don't think it stops there. Because when you peel back all those surface factors, when you trace the line of quasi-reasoning back to its source, to the "real" reason many people voted for Prop. 8, I think the real blame lies with, well, the Almighty himself.

That's right, I blame God.

Wait, check that. Let me say it with the proper intonation and slant: Imagine my voice trembling, the very earth beneath my feet rumbling, the very letters you are about to read appearing in enormous gothic capitals, dripping with fire and smoke and Budweiser logos, all surrounded by scowling cherubim armed with poorly printed pamphlets and a severe dislike of throbbing techno: GOD.

What, too much? I don't think so.

Who stabbed marriage equality to death, again? The Mormon Church. Catholic groups. Evangelicals. Militant fundamentalists. Reclusive, sickly, notoriously right-wing billionaires like Howard Ahmanson, a guy who also funded a radical Christian theologian madman who himself endorses stoning gay people to death. The mother of Eric Prince, CEO of the notorious Blackwater thugs-for-hire company.

Behind it all, it's God. No, not the god you and I understand as a universal, non-gendered, asexual, love-drunk energy coursing through all things at all times everywhere without the slightest wisp of prejudice or geographical preference, but that famously small, myopic version, the one that encourages a literalist interpretation of very carefully selected Bible verse (to the complete disregard of myriad others) -- a version that, in short, has been drilled into the consciousness of far too many voters for far too long.

Is it not true? Once again this election, in pulpits across America, the call rang out: We must stop the gays. We cannot allow them entry into the sanctuary of Eternal Hetero Love. After all, marriage is (these people believe) the last upstanding Christian stronghold, the final barrier preventing America from becoming some sort of Sodom-iffic nipple-pierced polyamorous rave party where anyone can marry anything and pets are running scared and people stick parts of their bodies into other people's parts for sexual pleasure. The horror.

And yes, it must be said: Sad indeed to imagine many of those black pastors up there, cheering Obama's win and deeming this a new dawn for blacks after so many years of struggle for basic civil rights, while in the next breath talking up the wrath of God that will strike parishioners should they allow homosexuals to register for stemware at Crate & Barrel. Talk about disingenuous.

Let me suggest it outright: The vast majority of Yes on 8 voters seem to have been motivated, at least in part, by this sad misunderstanding of God, this harsh spiritual slant that supports a discriminatory, micromanager Almighty who fully endorses marital bliss, but only for some.

(Interestingly, I believe this is the same God who, until recently, didn't allow whites to marry blacks. Or women to vote. Or slaves to be free. Or people to get divorced. Or women to become priests. Or humans to wear condoms. Hmm.)

Then again, when you put it that way, the ugly fight for Prop. 8 makes perfect sense. After all, hetero marriage is all organized religion really has left, their last vestige of power and control. Everything else they fought so hard to inject into the national agenda -- intelligent design, God's war against Muslims, the end of reproductive choice, more prayer in schools, abstinence education, et al -- not only failed, but failed spectacularly. No wonder they're clinging to this old, failed idea of marriage so violently.

So let me correct myself. I don't blame God. I certainly don't blame the kind of fluid, open-throated spiritual awareness that promotes, rather than denigrates, all forms of consensual love, that understands the human soul is ever in flux and must, like the society that forms around it, be allowed to grow and evolve lest it stumble and atrophy and vote Republican.

I do not blame God. I blame a very gloomy, revisionist version of the divine, a sour and demeaning mindset that believes in restriction, constriction, dread.

The good news is, I think Prop. 8's desperate, last-gasp victory merely reveals that this hollow, homophobic version of God is waning, sliding, fighting for its last taste of relevance, soon to be replaced by something just a bit more dynamic and open-hearted and, well, truly divine.

The bad news is, it's just going to take a bit longer than we'd hoped.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/11/07/notes110708.DTL&nl=fix

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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:12 AM
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1. I can't think of anything to add so I'll just kick and recommend.
;-)
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:16 AM
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2. K&R.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:19 AM
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3. I'll take one small issue
I think the No on 8 people are getting a bum rap.

The other side came with two distinct advantages.

1. They had the people in the churches every Sunday where they could get a full dose of lies and fear. You can't counter that with a bunch of TV ads. You can't buy that kind of exposure.

2. The propaganda produced by the other side was mostly -- about 99 percent -- lies. So, the No on 8 people had two choices. Put out a lot of ads complaining about the lies or trying to put out a positive message and hope that it stuck. They did a little of both, but the effort was neutralized by the crap people were hearing in their churches week after week after week after week -- and sometimes several times a week.

Just to show you what people were hearing -- and I've posted this on other threads because I find it so outrageous -- this is a quote from a Mormon in our local paper:

“The people that advocate redefining marriage are saying basically that every religious and secular tradition from the recorded history of mankind is immoral."

It is beyond nonsensical, but how do you counter that when someone is getting it from a religious "leader" they assume is telling them "God's own word?"
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 04:22 PM
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11. There is a simple way to counter this, and it would have been nice if....

the No on 8 people had caught on: simply point out that the core sponsors of Prop. 8 are Dominionist whackjobs who think that everyone should live under the rule of "God", and abide by the laws of their church that are pulled from religious scripture. Then, stress separation of church and state. This could have been a very patriotic message focusing on the founding principles of our forefathers trying to escape religious persecution, for the freedom to practice religion (or not) any way they see fit. Did we see any ads like this? NO!
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:19 AM
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4. Morford is spot-on again.
K&R
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:23 AM
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5. A wholehearted K&R. This "God" is the one I reject and I believe most thinking
folks reject. Unfortunately, there are a whole lot of brainwashed people out there who still cling to this myopic vision.

I have faith in my version overtaking theirs very soon. Not soon enough I know, but soon.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:23 AM
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6. As I've been saying for days now,
the fundies won this battle but they have lost the war. In the culture war, they lose. We are moving inexorably away from homophobia and hatred and they know it. This is becoming increasingly strident and yet, it doesn't matter, the whackadoos have already lost.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:45 AM
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7. Oh, I take exception to this . . .
"Or maybe it's all those sad, white, central portions of the state, the huge chunks of voters who live in places without much culture or perspective or major universities, who only hear certain strains of spiteful rhetoric and thin fearmongering, whose general lack of education means they apparently still believe certain flavors of love will poison everyone's soup and ruin the sanctity of the time-honored 50-percent heterosexual missionary position Christian divorce rate."

Central portions of the state???
Like Los Angeles, San Luis Obispo, Ventura, Orange & San Diego counties?

Bigotry can take all forms. So, let me recap. Voters who live in the central part of the state are:
without much culture
have no major universities
lack education

I'm not denying that Central California sucked on this issue. It doesn't get suckier. But to classify ALL residents who happen to reside in the Central Valley, most of whom have migrated here from larger areas, as "without culture" and "without education" smacks of elitism.

And I'm not sure what the author deems a "major university." Do our universities have student populations of USC, USLA? Nope. But neither do MOST universities. I would be fascinating to know how the author defines "major university" and why we should minimize the contributions of smaller universities.

It seems to me this issue needs all the support it can get and alienating large segments of the population isn't the way to do it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 10:49 AM
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8. It is the god that those mean, small-minded hypocrites created in their own image.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 11:22 AM
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9. There's another reason I don't see anyone talking about.
I have spent quite a bit of time thinking about this. How could someone who voted for Obama vote against a civil right? It's more than just a religious vote. That wouldn't have cut it. I thought about how to change the outcome of the vote. And then I realized we can't just change the vote. We have to change what caused the vote.

At any rate, I see this coming down to whether people perceive being gay as a choice. If being homosexual is something one decides to do, then it isn't ok with the American voters. And this, I believe, is what we need to work on.

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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 01:59 PM
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10. k&r
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