Do You Agree With Some At MSNBC That Obama Supporters Are Rude, Arrogant And Close Minded?

[ihavenobias]

No, that's not an exaggeration. That sure seemed to be the take of four different hosts/correspondents as you can see in . Can you believe it? I highly recommend you watch the video *before* you comment to get the context.

Also keep this in mind the next time some dope tries to tell you how MSNBC is the "Left equivalent of Fox News", etc. Sure, Keith and Rachel are there, but unlike Fox News the Entire Network is NOT liberal or progressive, not even close. I'm not even arguing that it should be, just pointing out how absurd the idea is based on reality.

And of course the McCain rally clip later on in the video is very satisfying because it destroys their terrible argument (not that it wasn't absurd on it's face).

PS---Make sure you check out the new Post Election Episode with Jonathon Alter, Marcy Wheeler Of FireDogLake, Brad From BradBlog, & Cenk. include Rachel Maddow, Michael Moore, John Cusack, Bernie Sanders, David Sirota and many more (and Margaret Cho will be a future guest). I'm amazed that more people aren't aware of this show!

[Not the Only One]

1. with all due respect

MSNBC can go fuck itself.

[ihavenobias]

9. To be fair it wasn't everyone at MSNBC (obviously)...

Maybe I shouldn't be, but I was shocked at this terrible segment. I mean, it's over the top ridiculous. Their reaction was laughable, and more fitting for Fox News.

[CherylK]

14. It is ridiculous!!! I watched the video before and I thought Cenk's comments after were perfect!

He is right, if he had been on that set things would have gone differently.

:evilgrin:

[krkaufman]

48. I refuse to watch Morning Schmoe, so haven't researched it myself ...

... but I have wondered whether their crack investigative team has reported on the lady in Grosse Pointe Farms, a McCain supporter, who denied Halloween candy to children of Obama supporters.

The segment you reference was well-covered by Cenk; a ridiculous attempt at a gotcha segment that fell flat, and so was exaggerated and twisted by those back in the studio to paint Obama supporters as just as bad as the lunatics at McCain/Palin rallies.

[peekaloo]

2. Fuck no and stop asking me those ignorant assed questions!

:sarcasm:

[Lerkfish]

8. crap, you stole my post!

that's what I was going to say!

[peekaloo]

10. we can share!

*terrorist fist bump* Comrade

:hi:

[Lerkfish]

15. cool! *terrorist fist bump* back at ya!

[ihavenobias]

12. Obviously we all know the answer to the question, the point is the ridiculous MSNBC segment

I would've liked to have seen Olbermann and or Rachel tackle it, but I assume they can't since it was on their own network.

[Bippity Boo]

3. thanks for recommending "Meet the Bloggers"

I was unaware of it. It looks like Cenk gets to film on a different soundstage. For some reason the one on TYT reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where Kramer finds the Merv Griffin Show set and reinacts episodes of the show in his apartment.

[ihavenobias]

28. Yeah, MTB has a very nice set n/t

[Corkey Mineola]

4. Back during the Primaries I did...

When Hillary was my candidate...
but then I got religion...
:evilgrin:

[malletgirl02]

7. Your signature

This is not related to the OP, but is there anything Obama can do about the use of his image in the ad in your signature? Has he said anything about it?

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Yeah that was bad. They didn't much care for us Edwards supporters, either.

[mrcheerful]

5. More projection, blame others of what your guilty of its a republicon conservative trait

that we have seen played out time after time over the last 30 years. Think about it, the economic melt down is a direct result of republicon deregulations and gutting the consumer protections laws. It allowed predatory loans with little to no over sight on anything. Yet now its blame the democrats for allowing the republicons to do all of these terrible things.

[cardFan123]

6. On all sides

There are rude, arrogant and close minded people on ALL sides of the political spectrum, and it doesn't have anything to do with politics. Those people are that way in all aspects of their lives. Those are just human traits that some people have.

[ihavenobias]

18. That's not the way it's portrayed in the segment. Trust me, watch the video. n/t

[jpak]

11. Republicans won by a landslide last Tuesday - didn't you get that talking points email??

:evilgrin:

[ihavenobias]

31. Ha

:)

[bridgit]

13. Some of them yes decidedly so & without doubt...

But that seems able to be spread around quite evenly between the supporters of many

[Metta]

16. We call that projection, denial and acting out.

... in the world of mental health issues.

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Some maybe, but every candidate has some of those kinds of followers

[droidamus2]

19. Once again

It will never stop amazing me that in my opinion the right wing defines how bad they really by what they project onto the liberals in this country. If you listen to what they spout about hateful, arrogant and closed minded I think that is the very definition of the far right wing in this country. Another question, what is so bad about being proud of your intelligence. I guess in their bizzaro world 'smart bad, dumb good'.

[lonestarnot]

20. All of them piss me off at any given point in time!

:D

[20score]

21. Here's my letter on the subject from 11/2/08.

An Open Letter To Mike Barnicle. Re: Comments About Hating The Left.


Recently on an episode of Morning Joe there was a segment were Willie Geist went to the Upper West Side of Manhattan to show how closed minded those people were. Willie Geist, wearing a McCain Palin shirt tried to talk to people about voting for McCain/Palin. None of the people were rude, no one shouted and the people there seemed to be much more polite than most people in a large city. Some even thanked Willie, but refused the shirt. Of course, then the panel came on to tell the audience what they really saw.

Willie, Joe, Mika and yourself commented on how disturbing it was that these people were unreceptive to hearing about McCain. It was supposed show, according to the four of you that these people were rude and pompous. I think it showed polite people and a rude and pompous panel. A lying, pretentious panel designed to dumb down the electorate and in the process show how fair and balanced they were. You even went so far as to say it was ‘right to loathe the left.’ Now, I don’t know if this comment was because of your own twisted version of reality, where you look for demons, and where none can be found, you create them. Or it was because you are a paid tool, on the television to create a sense of equality between the two political sides where none exists. This is one of those times where the media, this time you in particular, failed miserably at your chosen profession. Just like when the media pretends both sides of the global warming debate are equal, or the two sides of the evolution debate are equal, you pretended now that hating the left is okay, because they supposedly look down on the right. Where, like this segment, the media pretends that the hate on the left is equal to or worse than the hate on the right. That is pure un-adulterated bullshit. Their hate comes from untrue ideas, i.e., Iraq attacked us; or it comes from bigotry. Our side is rightly mad about torture, a million people dead in Iraq, loss of constitutional rights, people dieing from lack of healthcare and millions slipping into poverty. And those things are equal to you, Mike?

Really Mike? It’s okay to loathe the left? Have you seen the videos of the McCain/Palin rallies? Have you seen the videos of an Obama rally? Because the difference between the two lays out the difference between the sides quite nicely. Did you expect the people on the street to stop and ask, “Please tell us all you know about this McCain fella, and spare no details. I’ve never heard of him?” How would this have gone down in Dallas, Texas, with someone wearing an Obama shirt? There is good portion of the people there who believe Obama is a Muslim and are not afraid to say so.

You owe the left, your audience and journalists everywhere an apology.

[ihavenobias]

23. You summed it up perfectly with this line "That is pure un-adultered bullshit".

Amen.

:)

[20score]

26. Thank you! And a K&R to your post.

[barbtries]

22. of course not

we're polite, humble, and open-minded! every single one of us, all the time, no exceptions ever. :)

[ihavenobias]

35. Exactly

:)

[whathehell]

24. A stupid, desperate attempt to "go negative" for the Repukes...

[Scout]

25. SOME of them probably are ... but then SOME of every group

are the same as well.

:shrug:

[ihavenobias]

27. Watch the clip and you'll see the RIDICULOUS way that they came to their conclusion n/t

[pleah]

29. That is why I don't watch these idiots in the morning, or

any other time for that matter. Yes they were obviously biased in this assessment.

[ihavenobias]

45. Yes n/t

[ejbr]

30. Unreal

All I can think to say is if the people watching agree with those assessments, then they are too brain dead to convince otherwise anyway. However, I think people are smarter than that and would rather deal with those "arrogant" people than the wingnuts at a Palin rally.

[ihavenobias]

46. I hope you're right about them not being able to convince anyone but

I do worry about them reinforcing bad ideas, especially with susceptible moderates/independents.

[ejbr]

47. Susceptible is right

but let's hope this falls into the category of who do I believe? Scarborough and company or my lying ears and eyes?! :)

[Lilith Velkor]

32. Most at MSNBC are blithering fools

Even Rachel sometimes (but she's still hella cute.)

[NashVegas]

33. Funny

Plenty of good DUers thought so during the primaries, plenty of people all over the net thought so.

And you expect me to believe MSNBC just noticed and is outraged?


:rofl:

[Javaman]

34. meh, same could be said for most if not all repuke supporters.

cut and paste are very over used tools.

I suspect to see more of this.

[Seldona]

36. What a ridiculous comparison. Glad Cenk put the vids up side by side.

It's sort of like what President Obama (I will NEVER tire of writing that) said. It is almost like they are proud to be stupid and racist.

I have to admit to being intolerant lately myself though. Intolerant of the intolerant. They do nothing but judge, but if anyone dare question their bs? Out come the flag and the bible. Ah well, they are politically irrelevant now. For the time being at least.

[Bobbie Jo]

37. Pffffffft....talk to the hand.

:smoke:

[OhioChick]

38. K&R

:kick:

[Doctor_J]

39. What a stupid question to post here

welcome to the ignore list

[ihavenobias]

44. Not that it matters, but can someone please set this over-reaction by a fellow DUer straight?

I think he/she COMPLETELY misread the intentions of my post, as evidenced by welcoming me to the "ignore list".

This sort of thing is exactly why I made sure to tell people to watch the video BEFORE they commented.

:)

[TankLV]

65. aparently sarcasm is lost on some people...

[navarth]

52. Hey TOJ

Perhaps you should take a deep breath and re-examine the thread. You're putting good people on your ignore list. Probably without knowing what's up.

It's advice, take it or leave it

[Poseidan]

40. tv news sucks asshole through a straw

I'd rather read my news, on the ole' internet, while I listen to niceness music. On firefox, there's this thing called 'fire-fm'. It fucking rules, anything you're looking for.

[ihavenobias]

50. Why so soft?

;)

[Azlady]

41. Geezzzzzzzzz

[loyalkydem]

42. So

its okay for the right to say stuff like Bomb Obmaa, Kill the man or I won't vote for him because he's black, but when we support him, we're closed minded, No fucking thanks.

[ihavenobias]

54. Apparently that's their argument n/t

[KamaAina]

43. Hell no! Where do those dirty scum get off calling me close minded?

:P

[louis c]

49. I confess to Rude and Arrogant

but not closed minded.

[ihavenobias]

55. Ha, ha...

That's some great honesty.

[TWiley]

51. I am all of the above when it comes to specific issues.

They whine because we do not see and endorse the "glory" of the bushtapo's policy.

[Overseas]

53. Why don't they ask the Secret Service what they think? //eom

[ihavenobias]

56. That is the perfect question. n/t

[Marrah_G]

57. Not touching this one with a 500 foot pole.

[ihavenobias]

58. I won't ask... n/t

[CherylK]

59. Bump!

:kick:

[fascisthunter]

61. Yeah... When Reich WIng Palin Supporters SHout Assisination Threats

at a Presidential Campaign rally, that's ok with this nutty reich wing hack.

The man needs a shrink.

[ihavenobias]

62. Well, at least one of the talking heads got punished...kind of.

If you count Scarborough's F-bomb.

[TankLV]

63. Way too many HERE were/are!!!

or didn't you visit during the primaries?!

it was DISGUSTING...

[Name removed]

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