PRESS RELEASE: "Catholics stand with Mormons: Prop 8 protestors are 'bigots, intolerant'. "

[Bluebear]

SACRAMENTO, Calif., Nov 07, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- The following statement was released today by Bishop William Weigand, head of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento and former Bishop of Salt Lake City, in response to attacks on the Mormon Church for supporting California's Proposition 8, defending the traditional definition of marriage:

"Catholics stand in solidarity with our Mormon brothers and sisters in support of traditional marriage--the union of one man and one woman--that has been the major building block of Western Civilization for millennia.

"The ProtectMarriage coalition, which led the successful campaign to pass Proposition 8, was an historic alliance of people from every faith and ethnicity. LDS were included--but so were Catholics and Jews, Evangelicals and Orthodox, African-Americans and Latinos, Asians and Anglos.

"Bigoted attacks on Mormons for the part they played in our coalition are shameful and ignore the reality that Mormon voters were only a small part of the groundswell that supported Proposition 8.

"As the former bishop of the Diocese of Salt Lake City, I can attest to the fact that followers of the Mormon faith are a good and generous people with a long history of commitment to family and giving to community causes.

"I personally decry the bigotry recently exhibited towards the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints--coming from the opponents of Proposition 8, who ironically, have called those of us supporting traditional marriage intolerant.

"I call upon the supporters of same-sex marriage to live by their own words--and to refrain from discrimination against religion and to exercise tolerance for those who differ from them. I call upon them to accept the will of the people of California in the passage of Proposition 8."

SOURCE: Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento

Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento
Kevin Eckery, 916-443-2528
[e-mail]

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Former-Catholic-Bishop-Salt-Lake/story.aspx?guid={BE149180-C54A-41B7-B3DC-14EAC89B5D6E}

[d_b]

1. ah, yes

the ol' "what about our right to own slaves" argument.

[Warren DeMontague]

2. Right. Tolerate the fact that we need to run your life for you.

What, aren't you tolerant?

[MrModerate]

3. Are they fuckin' crazy?

"Tolerance" means I'm supposed to let you sniff my sheets and grade my character based on your view of reality? And then enshrine that view in law?

Blow it out your ear, buddy.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Accusations of bigotry:

What every bigot hides behind.

[denem]

5. 'Bishop' Weigand is a extremist who does not accept the separation of church and state

He waged a war on Gov. Davis on abortion:

"As your bishop, I have to say clearly that anyone politician or otherwise — who thinks it is acceptable for a Catholic to be pro-abortion is in very great error, puts his or her soul at risk and is not in good standing with the church" said Weigand.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/politics/pg00...

I could give the sweet Bishop some very precise and detailed instructions about where he can shove his "good standing", if it actually still stands.

[Chulanowa]

6. Damn fucking right, Bishop Weigand!

I am bigoted against you and your god-in-a-hat buddies. Just as I am bigoted against all dumb assholes who will try to impose their will religious or otherwise, against another group of people just because they're an easy target. I am most definitely biased and bigoted and hateful towards your own fear and loathing and hatred of my fellow man, and as that has become your cause, your muse, your raison d'être, your bread and butter, then yes I will be hateful, bigoted, and intolerant of you until you abandon your ignorance and oppression of those who are different from you. Yes, Bishop Weigand, I am a bigot, and I challenge you to tell me that I am wrong to be bigoted against hate, and the people who express it, the people who codify it, and hte people who vote for it.

[denem]

10. but are you "good standing"?

see above.

[Chulanowa]

17. Haven't tried that position yet, but I haven't had any complaints while laying down!

[denem]

18. I'm guessing putting your "soul at risk"

is mighty fine.

[Chulanowa]

21. Soul?

I done sold my soul so I can play this here gee-tar :lol:

[SoCalNative]

7. Scratch a bigot

find a homophobe

[Chulanowa]

8. Then clean and disinfect your fingernails

[Selatius]

9. Looks like it's the fucking pot trying to call a non-existent kettle black.

People aren't attacking Mormons because of who they are. They are being singled out for heavy criticism for the very disproportionate amount of cash they threw behind the proposition relative to their numbers.

Charges of bigotry being leveled by the Catholic Church, of all institutions, ring hollow given the bloody nature of the Church in the last 1500 years of western history.

[denem]

12. Ratzinger on LDS - Not a church, headed for hell.

[kevinbgoode]

35. The utter hypocrisy of this representative of a criminal organization

Why aren't the Catholic churches listed on the state child predator lists? The absolute arrogance of this man's statement - that they are entitled to campaign for the removal of the constitutional rights of other citizens while asserting their own special status, even when they are guilty of covering up criminal activity for decades.

The level of deception is amazing. These aren't supporters of the democratic process - these are dominionists who seek to impose religious tyranny upon all the people and are squirming because we intend to expose them for anti-constitutional liars.

Apparently the Catholic bishop believes that, since the Church got away with criminal activity for decades (and often, with the heinous cooperation of local government authorities) that the government is supposed to be a branch of that church. It is time for Americans to stand up against religious tyranny and for this church to be held as responsible as any other citizen who participates in robbing others of their constitutional rights.

[Drunken Irishman]

11. Weigand is and always has been an ass.

[old mark]

13. I was born and raised catholic, and believed it till I was about 11.

I have NO respect for these alcoholic pedophiles, and from what I have read about the Mormons, about the same for them.

Both of these groups are interested in political power, real estate and money. Fuck all of these people.


mark

[denem]

14. 11? Is that about the age you started

thinking about


SEX.

(sorry, couldn't resist. Raised Catholic myself.)

[old mark]

29. The evil trouser mouse reared it's head - a lot, actually....

Sex and questioning authority. I voiced an opinion on birth control, and was told - in front of the class - that I was not a catholic and was destined for hell.

Fuck all these people.

mark

[Selatius]

19. I left the Catholic Church because I found out my cardinal was shuffling child-molesting priests.

The Church was making it difficult for the authorities to prosecute the offenders, but Cardinal Law paid a price in the end anyway.

I call myself a Deist nowadays. There is no church hierarchy there.

[old mark]

30. There was and still is a lot of that shit going on,

for substance abuse and/or sexual abuse. Much more than was admitted to, and some still coming out now.

I found my own way, too, just myself and whatever may be.

Thanks for the responses - Maybe we should have an "ex-religious" forum....

mark

[Webster Green]

15. Fucking assholes!

Issue your ignorant fucking press release that supports discrimination, and then go back to diddling altar boys.

The Catholic Religion is a sick fucking hoax. I figured it out when I was 10 years old and bailed out of that bullshit. :mad:

[riverdeep]

16. So let me get this straight (no pun intended),

the child diddlers and multiple wife marriers are complaining about gays bringing on moral ruin?

[Chulanowa]

23. That's usually hte way it works

"Don't look at what I'M doing, look at what THEY'RE doing!"

And it works like clockwork if "they" are a smaller group than "I"

[Downtown Hound]

20. Oh Kevin, you have no idea, you poor, dumb bastard

It's only begun.

[orleans]

22. here's mine: PRESS RELEASE: Mormons flock to CA so daddies could marry daughters

mothers do the same to marry sons

brothers head off to california with their sister on their arm.

(the results of a law that should not have been passed)

[lligrd]

24. Wait, I Get It. If Religious Pedophiles Can't Marry

they don't want others to be able to.

[HockeyMom]

25. Catholics = One Man and One Woman for LIFE

They always ALWAYS fail to mention those last two words don't they? Is that next on the religious hit list? Amendments to ban DIVORCE?

[Lyric]

26. Ha. Yes, and we similar bullshit from the KKK and the Neo-Nazis

about how we should be "tolerant" of other people's opinion. Newsflash: when an oppressed minority seeks equality, that doesn't make said minority "bigoted" toward the majority that is withholding equality.

I don't give a flying fuck WHAT your opinion is. The only thing I care about is that you don't legislate your bigotry. When you do that, you cross a line.

[Ian David]

27. Cry me a fucking river. And the fight to stop Prop 8 still goes on in the courts.

www.InvalidateProp8.org

www.eqca.org

[rpannier]

28. Asshat bigot

St Francis in Sacto used to have a great priest Father Barry.

St Francis had a Thursday night set aside for Gay-Lesbian parishoners and two times a month divorced Catholics met.

It's too bad the Church has so many Bishop Weigland's and so few Father Barry's

[rucky]

31. You can't make this shit up, can you?

Are people really that blind to their own hypocracy?

[ellie]

32. Well, as a Catholic,

I think Catholics can be fuckheads too. I am tired of, as my father used say, men in dresses telling me how to live. The hypocrisy emanating from the Church is disgusting. I hope this ban is overturned and I hope that gay men and women have the right to marry all over the U.S. and the world.

[IDemo]

33. Hypocrite->

Job 27: 8
For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained,
when God taketh away his soul?

Prov 11: 9
An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through
knowledge shall the just be delivered.

Matt 7: 1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

[Mari333]

34. hmmph. PROJECTION. n/t

[WolverineDG]

36. Here's a solution:

strip the tax-exempt status of the Mormon & Catholic churches. If they wanna play, they're gonna have to pay, just like everyone else. So what if some of their properties are choice real estate? Ka-ching!

dg

[kevinbgoode]

37. Why yes, Bishop - only YOUR Church....and your partnership of thieves

with other organizations, are allowed to engage in bigotry - and then attach the word "GOD" to justify your religious tyranny.

The absolute, stunning hypocrisy of behaving as if they don't deserve protest is astounding. The arrogance utterly amazing.

Perhaps someone should inform the bishop that the constitutional rights of his church can now be voted upon as well.

[Toasterlad]

38. If I Think About This Shit Too Long, My Fucking Head Will Explode

[GRLMGC]

39. That's rich!

I'm really never going to church again. The hypocrisy is just too nauseating.

[Leopolds Ghost]

40. "Our Mormon Brothers and Sisters"-- does the Catholic Church now recognize Mormonism as Xtianity?

This man is insane. Sure, plenty of the Prop 8 activists may be intolerant towards traditional marriage supporters and religion in general, but Mormonism has nothing in common with Catholicism.

[Bluebear]

41. This was the Mormon goal. Establish anti-gay cred to be more "accepted" in the religious right

[bluedawg12]

42. "accept the will of the people of California ?"

The votes have NOT been counted fully-yet!


And The Church co-funded a political organization that sold this initiative like any other repig "initiative" has ever been sold to the public-with lots of money and false claims.

I thought lying was a sin?

[AngryOldDem]

43. Let me see if I understand....

...those who are showing the worst kind of intolerance are asking for TOLERANCE? And are asking it from those who are on the receiving end of their intolerance?

It's more of the same "do as I say, not as I do" bullshit?

That is just fucked up.

[Book Lover]

44. Another sworn celebate telling people how to have fulfilling

lifelong marriages. Makes sense to me! :sarcasm:

[gollygee]

45. Oh yeah. The ole' "If you are tolerant, you have to tolerate our intolerance" drivel.

Nope.

[Jamastiene]

46. Uh, MEMO for Bishop William Weigand

Burn in Hell, you filthy hate monger

[GreenFiles]

47. Awwww. Are the Catholics pissed they're not in the spotlight?

A press release will fix that. What # sin was vanity? Remind me.

[TexasObserver]

48. When you think of abuse of children, which two religions come to mind?

Same two that are attacking gays in California.

Hate is a family value with the powers that be in those two churches.

[StreetKnowledge]

49. Protesters against a Proposition stripping homsexuals of their rights is bigotry?

What fuckin' planet is this guy on?! :mad:

[Stellabella]

50. Hating bigotry isn't bigotry.

It's just calling out bigotry.

God, the lack of logical reasoning skills is infuriating.