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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:39 PM Original message |
"We have no base," Rahm said of the Democratic party. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. They know what is expected and they will deliver. Watch. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
244. They Just Delivered Howard Dean's Head on a Platter. Everyone Dean hired will be fired |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #244 |
257. So much for "hope" |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. What he's saying is that we don't lock step. @ least we used to free think |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yeah, we seem to be getting better at lockstep. n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
219. Agreed. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Bingo, madfloridian. Fuck you Rahm. n/t |
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JimboBillyBubbaBob (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
188. I offer a second! |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. who is it? who are you excluding? nt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Do you want one-party control? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. what names? Just asking who the base is, so I can know who isn't. nt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think that is a useless question designed to defend the indefensible. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. are you part of the base? nt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I will say |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Go Rahm! nt. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I'm curious, why did Obama diss you guys so hard a few years back? n/t |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. to get you to vote for him? nt. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
245. And it worked! Your so happy with yourself, DemStrategist. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. "Go Rahm!" says the person with the DLC avatar. Color me shocked. n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Hello? I'm DLC too and |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yes she is |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. at least some exclusionists have the courage to say it. nt. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Like the DLCers? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I never see "DLC'ers" making posts like this...just the increasingly irrelevant left. Go Rahm! nt. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Why bring attention to themselves? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Obama is wise. Go Rahm! nt. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
61. Rahm is corporatist idiot |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
187. He's no idiot. He gets paid for his corporatism. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #187 |
199. Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #199 |
206. In THAT case, RRRRRAHHHHHMMMMM RRRRRRRRAWWWXXX!!!! |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. lol |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
56. "done jack shit" Huh? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Gosh...what have Rahm and the party bosses/DLC done for us? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. What I don't like about the Left-Wing is this, you ALWAYS appear hostile and angry |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
171. I think you're an exception. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #171 |
184. "Electing conservative democrats does not serve the party's ideals." |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #171 |
198. You need to make a distinction between Conservative Democrats and Centrist Democrats |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #198 |
232. Being an economic conservative and social liberal does not make you centrist |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #198 |
236. These are definitions we could play with forever and not agree on. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #83 |
241. um, because we're pissed that DLC lickspittles nearly destroyed the party? |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
259. We call ourselves "the majority", thank you n/t |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #76 |
91. And don't forget |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
183. Exactly...anyone who disagrees with them is a "loony lib" et. al....they're moving the "center"..... |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
226. LOL "getting the FIRST Democratic President elected since 1976"... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. "increasingly irrelevant left"? as opposed to what -- the "relevant right"? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. no...the lefts cousins are irrelevant too. centrists...like your President elect and his new COS.nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. "centrists" got us NAFTA, "centrists" got us the war in Iraq, "centrists" are part of the RWoDP.... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:33 PM Original message |
you must be unhappy with the results of the election then. lmao. nt. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. Obama is not a "centrist". I consider him to be a liberal. I know you don't like liberals.... n/t |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. of course you do. as he reshapes the DNC, and puts moderates and possibly Repubs in his cabinet.nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I don't care if he puts Repubs in his cabinet....as long as they are sensible. However... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
240. FDR did the precise same thing in regards to staffing his cabinet... |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. President Obama ran on a Centrist platform, it's why he was elected in a landslide |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. the base of the party is centrist. nt. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. that's 100% wrong and you know it. The base is pro-labor, anti-corporate...which the DLC is NOT. n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. The base of the party includes Centrists |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Define "centrist". Our "base" is pro-labor, anti-Corporate. The DLC is neither. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Centrist = |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. "it's NOT the Corporations that are bad" and herein lies the problem. Deregulation doesn't work.... |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. But it's not the Corporations that are bad, it's the SYSTEM thats bad |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. No, but corporations need regulating. And we need to quit pandering to them. n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I would agree that some regulation IS necessary |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
213. Socialism doesn't work? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #78 |
228. You're just defining things based on your own personal feelings. |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
211. WTF are you talking about? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #62 |
227. That's so absurd. How did Kerry run more to the left than Obama? |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
255. Not Exactly |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
134. Obama is a CENTRIST and I say that as somebody from the far |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Al Gore supported NAFTA he even went on Larry King to support NAFTA |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
254. Yes, and he was wrong. It's why he didn't win. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
253. You DO realize "centrist" is defined ONLY in relation to the acceptable left and right. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. We are not RIGHT, we are Centrist, there is a HUGE difference |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. oh..let the mourn. always such disappointment with the way things turn out..just like the fundies.nt |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I wish people would be HAPPY, we WON, Jaysus I'm sick of the whining already |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
87. Whining Brigade, huh? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Yes Whining Brigade, it began on Wednesday, we've had a TON of people whining ever since |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
89. One more thing before I go |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Nobody called you "irrelevant", but the whining needs to calm down |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. The "centrist" of today is yesterday's conservative. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Absolute nonsense....the Left-Wing of today is yesterdays Communist |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
158. Except his is correct and yours is something Limbaugh would say |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
246. en.wikipedia.org/ overton_window |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
140. Economic conservatives are the ones |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
146. An economic conservative and a social liberal = A Libertarian, not a centrist. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. A "centrist" is a conservative with no sense of history. Or perhaps a "good cop." |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
157. That depends on degree also. |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
214. Then what's an economic liberal and a social conservative? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #51 |
229. So if you're an economic conservative... |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
233. That's a rather convenient definition of "centrist"... |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. The irrelevant left? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Heh heh, I bring out the very worst I fear. Yeh, let them try it without us. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Note the dismissiveness paired with taking us for granted |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. you'll turn out...just like the fundies turn out for Republicans. nt. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Your faith and a quarter will get you a call to someone who shares your arrogance |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Rahm...the next Presidents Chief of Staff. Go Rahm! nt. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
137. "the increasingly irrelevant left"?!?!?! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
148. Who are the 'irrelevant left'? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
145. The base is ANTI-IRAQ war. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. If the ONE party is the Democratic Party then yes |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
147. The DLC are NOT grown-ups. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. 'Er, fellow DLCer about to slap your wrist |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. Thanks for trying. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
96. I just want both sides to TRY and work together on things and be friends |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. I was fine with all of it until he picked Rahm. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. I was never a Deaniac, of course ;), but I do give him credit |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #114 |
127. That's just it. That's the problem. The grassroots and Dean shared the victory. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
231. And now we're starting that "DLC" crap again!!! Aren't you people EVER satisfied????? |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
156. Huh? Rahm is the one excluding. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Schumer is my Senator, and I cannot wait for him to be replaced by a |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
150. Mine too, and I share your desire to get rid of him and will be |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'm curious why Obama picked the ineffectual rahm over the proven goods of Dean. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Dean won't be staying as chair. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. heh...Obama is reshaping the DNC too. nt. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. If Harold Ford gets that position, they can kiss my ass good-bye. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Fuck Harold Ford. Every time I see that prick on TV I change the channel. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
103. Harold Ford and President Obama are close friends, I expect Ford to |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Christ on a bike let's hope not......he is a homophobic right-wing DINO. n/t |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Just the kind of guy the DLC likes (eom) |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. You are now accusing the DLC of being homophobic? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. The DLC and the Blue Dogs [home of some of the biggest homophobes in Congress] are intertwined n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. I'm not a fan of the Blue Dogs, unlike me, they are social conservatives |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #116 |
247. Yes, the DLC wing is economically conservative and socially liberal. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. When an organization puts a bigot in charge |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. California a supposedly majority "Progressive" state, just voted NO |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Comparing the population of the state of California to the leadership |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. My post # 116, I already told you I'm 100% in support of gay marriage and 100% pro-gay rights |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Eleanor Roosevelt resigned from the DAR when they wouldn't let Marion Anderson SING at Constitution |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #125 |
181. President Obama is AGAINST gay marriage too....so are you calling HIM a "bigot" as well? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. but he's for other civil rights -- which your precious Blue Dog-DLC Corporate Cabal is against...n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #182 |
185. According to YOU anti-gay marriage = bigot, answer the question is President Obama a bigot? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. There's a difference. Obama is pro gay rights in general. Harold Ford is anti gay rights. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. Both voted FOR the DOMA and YOU said the DLC is bigoted and anti-gay rights |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. Obama wasn't even in the Senate when DOMA was passed. n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. But he would have voted FOR it, he is ANTI-GAY MARRIAGE |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #195 |
205. Nice try, but Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #189 |
212. Harold Ford is the chair of the DLC |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #182 |
192. Blue Dog Democrats are DIFFERENT from the DLC in GENERAL |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #192 |
249. The DLC are only liberal on social issues for upper class, Blue Dogs are conservative thru and thru. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #181 |
248. I'm not a fan of Prop 8 either, so now you say better to be socially AND economically conservative? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. "he is a homophobic right-wing DINO" |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. I don't believe I stuttered. n/t |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Post links to prove your allegations, and from CREDIBLE websites |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. he voted for the Federal Marriage Amendment, the bankruptcy bill, Terri Schaivo intervention, etc. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. And these things make him "homophobic" according to you? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #117 |
135. No but they sure make him "right-wing". n/t |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #113 |
154. Never mind |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #107 |
142. How about his own words. |
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judasdisney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
220. Bingo. If Dean gets ousted, I'm finished with Obama & all of them. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #220 |
250. Dean just got ousted |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
99. Why would he reshape an organization that helped get him elected |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
251. Rahm insists Dean was a failure and all the talking heads agree Rahm is responsible for victory. |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I believe this was a nod to AIPAC. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Because Rahm has a cuthroat take no prisoners appraoch that Dean doesn't |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. But he picked him for his gatekeeper and messenger. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
69. Unless Barack makes it clear that HE, not rahm, runs the show. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. The Chief of Staff's job is to get shit done |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
101. Because Rahm Emanuel is a leg-breaker |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #101 |
131. Love those leg breakers who hate activists. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #131 |
238. Activistst don't get legislation passed |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
237. Dean is proven to have success on Capitol Hill? |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. And everyone of them thinks THEY should get to pick the cabinet. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. All Your base R belong to DLC |
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tkayj (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Since the Republican base is just an |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. I don't think you have read much of my stuff.... |
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tkayj (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
133. I stick by what I said. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Sorry, but fuck the DLC. So the Democratic party represents the interests of no one? Of everyone? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. Sounds a lot like Dean's 50 State Strategy. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. No, it does not. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. I think we are disagreeing, but it's sure good to see Dems in charge again. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. The ones who got them there are being shoved out. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. I don't trust Rahm at all. Having him on the radar might be better. If Rahm doesn't spend his |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
42. Emanuel Is A Goldwater Republican With A Nasty Atitude |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. What you said |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. our base is much smaller than the Republican base...that's the bottom line |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Not necessarily |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #57 |
132. That's garbage |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. The democratic base is liberals and minorities |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Don't forget young people.. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. You know how "centrist" those young dems are! LOL! n/t |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. I'm not sure if I'd consider young people a base |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
252. Two dirty words that DC insiders use as epithets. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
79. Here are the views of the person supposedly next in line at the DCCC |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. DINO DWS also blew off Annette Taddeo and others ..... |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
81. "It leads to becoming just like the Republican party." |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
86. This is from 2007. The midterms. Now we have a "movement' |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. And we won the midterms in large part because of progressives .... |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
95. you seem stuck on past events that don't matter now |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Events do matter, greatly. The words I posted are from the big guy |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. That was Rahm in 2007, before Obama was party head, |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. So you think Rahm had some sort of epiphany? Ha! |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. I think Obama is in charge and Rahm will follow. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #106 |
129. Then it's Obama sending out termination notices for the 50 state plan. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
120. I'm glad I am not a registered democrat anymore. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. They ARE republicans, supplanting any Dem from the Dem party |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #120 |
123. we're glad too. bwaaa. nt. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. The Democrats can't win without the left |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
124. he (and the rest of the "new" DLC "democrats" certainly *Act* as if they have no base |
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LASteve (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
128. Not happy about this appointment |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
130. Recommending, yet remaining cautiously optimistic that Rahm will be good for Obama |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Mr. President Obama is smart enough to analyze very quickly whether or not Rahm is doing a good job |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
138. amazing |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #138 |
258. Many were fooled by the first argument |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
139. The article states: |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
141. The "winning is everything" DLCer's like Emmanuel is why I'm a DINO. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
143. kr for an excellent post. nt |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
144. I really dislike Emanuel. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #144 |
151. He's a psychopath.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
149. AND while we weren't watching...5 new anti-choice Dems got elected. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #149 |
165. Oh, WE care |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
152. No Democratic base...? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Read the 2nd paragraph of what he said. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. You miss the definition of a political party base....... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. I see them. I see the pain in the gay community, I see the pain we women are feeling |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. Picking teams and "winning is everything" is why I HATE republicans. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #155 |
161. So the existence of a base is dependant on divergences?! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #161 |
168. Yes, it makes very good sense. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Haha. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
163. Deleted sub-thread |
kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
164. RIGHT ON!!!! Emanuel scares the hell out of me. |
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mirror wall (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
166. Thank you. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
167. I see, people having difficulty defining "the base of this Democratic Party...."? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. So we are just like the other party after all. Glad you admit it. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #169 |
180. We are a political party that is less divisive than the other party and that's because...... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
170. He's Actually Right. We Don't Have Close To Having A Solid Identifiable Base Like The Republicans. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Yes, he's always right....and he's large and in charge now. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. We Didn't Add 5 More Anti-Choice Dems To Congress. Learn Your Facts. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Yes, we did. People matter issues matter, but not to the Dems now. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. All Previous Pro-Life Seats. No Harm Done Whatsoever. No Net Gain. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Did you notice they switched from R to D? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. No Net Gain. Period. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. I just agreed. You have convinced me. There is no base. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #179 |
190. Your Sarcasm Cannot Hide Your Lack Of Argument. Your Point Is Dead In The Water. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. I posted Rahm's own words. You are making convoluted arguments |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #191 |
196. You Fail. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. No, you missed his point. He will run anyone to win.... |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #197 |
223. i.e. Tim Mahoney n/t |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #179 |
225. Don't talk to bots like this, fuck 'em. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
194. Keep your Friends close and your enemies even closer |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #194 |
202. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #202 |
224. I don't know about you but I like to keep my dog's outside guarding the entry |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
200. I'm assuming President Obama is fully aware of all these facts. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. I hear that might go to Harold Ford... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #201 |
203. They have floated that before & failed- I suppose it would depend on where Dean wants to go... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
204. We did it. We got rid of the republicans. Now, we get rid of the DLC. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
208. Mr. Obama has a base ... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
209. K & R. Again. nt |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
210. Fuck you Rahm. |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
215. note carefully, Rahm, the words of John Muir |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
216. He meant he and his DLC friends have no base. Just future corporate employers |
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hardtoport (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
217. So I guess there's no chance we could allow Obama to be inaugurated before |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
218. You're obsessing |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #218 |
221. Perhaps President Obama will be a centrist |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
222. His only criteria is who could win??!!! |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
230. Less than a week after the election and......... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #230 |
234. Yes |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. and I will too. the only thing that will make Obama even remotely progressive is pressure from US |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #234 |
239. In what way? |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #234 |
243. Obama is a much better man than I am |
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JJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
242. Doesn't he know? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
256. When you ignore poor people and shove off the left, then maybe you shot yourself in the foot? |
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