Mormons = The New Scientologists

[GreenFiles]

There. I said it.

They're wacky and laughed at.

Boycott anything and everything from Utah!

[ColbertWatcher]

1. I think they're the OLD $cientologists. n/t

[GreenFiles]

3. lol... Guess you're right.

New as in they're the latest to capture the wacky religious sect spotlight. Have you seen my 7th wife?

[Cleita]

4. Yes I have to agree with you on that.

I never really noticed until I had to spend some time in Utah. Up until then I liked the Mormons I knew. However, when you go into their hive, things change.

[ColbertWatcher]

10. I think what needs to happen is some clear tax codes and ...

... investigations performed as fairly as the laws will be applied.

[sutz12]

9. Yeah, they were kind of out there first. nt

:shrug:

[DontTreadOnMe]

2. Money

Boycotts could be the best "weapon" -- if used properly by the gay community.

[Generic Brad]

5. That's it! I'm not buying any more magic underpants!

[curse of greyface]

6. Yeah they are kind of the old Scientolgists. nt

[littlebit]

7. Instead of a boycott

can I just grab one of them by their magic underwear and give them a wedgie so bad they are farting cotton for a week?

[DBoon]

8. unfair to Scientologists

they do not try to wield political power.

They would never waste their time and money pushing a ballot initiative as have the Mormons.

Scientologists only want your money - every penny of it.

[Starry Messenger]

12. I was just thinking that, too.

And I really dislike $cientology. Their political involvement seems to have ended when they succeeded in "convincing" the IRS they are a religion.

[ColbertWatcher]

14. "they do not try to wield political power." Actually they did.

They tried to cash in some favors from Sonny Bono and then his wife after he died.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/Scien73.html

[Donnachaidh]

15. they haven;t tried to wield political power -- YET.

Don't put anything past COS.

[DBoon]

20. "yet" is different from " regularly, consistently, and overtly"

as has the Mormon Church

BTW, did you know the NSA recruits Mormons actively? That members of the Mormon Church fill the ranks of our most secret, spookiest spy agency?

It's because their missionary work gives them excellent linguistic skills AND the strict surveillance the church places them under gives them clean background checks.

This post is likely read by a Mormon NSA spook

[ColbertWatcher]

26. But, they have, see my post #14. n/t

[QC]

18. They wield quite a lot of political influence here in Florida,

thanks to their outright ownership of the better part of a city here.

[DBoon]

24. They day they put together a California statewide ballot initiative

is the day I will believe Scientology and the Mormon Church are equivalently active

The Mormon Church is a political machine

Scientology is a money-making scam that as a byproduct has managed to achieve some political influence

[QC]

27. I'll never forget checking out the local paper not long ago

and seeing Kirstie Alie, of all people, testifying before a legislative hearing in Tallahassee about how psychiatric drugs are responsible for all the evil in the world.

Kirstie Allie is suddenly an expert on pharmacology?

That's when it first occurred to me that the $cientologists had some political influence. Certainly not like that of the Smith cult, of course, but not negligible, either. I think they are just not as good as the Smith cult yet when it comes to manipulating the political system.

[ET Awful]

35. They would engage in more devious means, like breaking into offices,

wiretapping, theft of documentation, etc.

see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White

I can't find the quotes right now, but there are quotes from Hubbard about exploiting the law until they're the ones who make the laws.

They can and do try to wield political power.

Edit: Found the quote:

"Somebody some day will say "this is illegal." By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not."

[LeftyMom]

11. What the fuck do they make in Utah, other than baby Mormons?

Seriously, I googled "Utah products" and all I could find was a page of obscure grocery products that probably aren't even sold out of state because I've only heard of one. Can anybody clue me in on any significant consumer product made in Utah and sold elsewhere in any quantity to the general population?

[Starry Messenger]

13. Scrapbooking supplies.

Provo is like "precious memories" Ground Zero.

[LeftyMom]

28. Now that I think about it, I think I've seen some other craft stuff from there.

I'll keep my eye on anything of that sort I buy.

[littlebit]

16. They don't really make a whole lot.

But I do know Mormons own several large trucking companies and The Flying J truck stop chain.

[Maat]

17. You have a point; HOWEVER, I did find this site useful ...

I won't even consider going to certain dentists in my area now:

http://www.jointheimpact.com/

[Cleita]

19. Funny enough, I always found Utah among many red (Republican dominated)

western states to be very prosperous as contrary to the others. I don't know how they do their economy but it seems that the Church of Latter Day Saints does pour a lot of the tithing that they get back into the economy. I do know that religious Mormons regardless of whether they live in Utah or not do tithe and I am going to have to assume that a lot of that money goes back to Utah. It's only my observation though and I could be totally wrong.

[sutz12]

21. They used to do WordPerfect. Is that still around? nt

[DBoon]

23. All the tech jobs went to godless California, Seattle and Boston

and with the passage of Prop 8, they will make sure that some of the California jobs leave the state

Why do you think Apple, Google, and other technology companies visibly funded "no on 8"? It's because they know they will lose skilled technologists to states that DO allow gay marriage

[Kali]

31. mostly ag

Agriculture

In terms of revenue generated Utah's top five agricultural products are beef cattle and calves, dairy products, hogs, hay, and greenhouse and nursery products.
Livestock

Over 3/4 of Utah's agricultural income is generated by livestock and livestock products. Beef cattle and milk lead the way in this sector.

Other important livestock products are hogs, chicken eggs, and sheep and lambs.

Wool, honey, aquaculture, and turkeys also contribute significantly to the economy.
Crops

Hay is Utah's largest crop, grown to feed beef and dairy cattle.

Greenhouse and nursery products (potted plants and ornamental shrubs) are also very important to the state.

The wheat, barley, and corn crops are also important.

Leading fruits are apples, cherries, and peaches. Apricots and pears are also grown in Utah.

Leading vegetables are onions, potatoes, and dry beans.

Mushrooms and safflower are also grown in Utah.

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Manufacturing

Manufacturers add value to raw products by creating manufactured items. For example, cotton cloth becomes more valuable than a boll of cotton through manufacturing processes.

Computer and electronics products, including communication equipment, computer microchips and scientific instruments, make up Utah's leading manufactured products list.

Ranking second is primary metals manufacturing, producing steel, aluminum and copper in the state.

Processed foods and beverages (dairy products, baked goods, meat products, snack foods) rank third.
Mining

Petroleum and copper are the most valuable mined products of Utah followed by natural gas.

Uranium is mined when economic conditions make it profitable.

Utah is the only state that produces gilsonite, a pure form of asphalt used in dark colored printing inks and paints, oil well drilling muds and cements, asphalt modifiers, foundry sands additives and a wide variety of chemical products.

Magnesium and natural salts are produced from the Great Salt Lake.

Utah is the country's leading producer of molybdenum and potassium salts.

Other mined products include sand and gravel, clay, gemstones,
Services

The community, business and personal services group provides the most valuable services industries in Utah including private health care, hotels and ski resorts, law firms, engineering companies, software development and repair shops.

Ranking second is the finance, insurance and real estate group. Population growth has benefited the real estate sector. A large banking company and several credit card companies have established operations in Utah.

The wholesale trade (food products, mined products, motor vehicles) and retail trade (automobile dealerships, discount stores, grocery stores, restaurants) services group ranks third in the state. Most of Utah's services are centered in metropolitan areas of the state.
Sources

[drmeow]

33. I know they used to own

Alpha Beta - don't know if it still exists or if they still own it.

Fulton Homes is Mormon - I don't know if they are outside of Arizona.

Deseret (kinda like Goodwill).

[TexasObserver]

22. The main difference between LDS and Scientologists is about a hundred years.

They're both fairy tales made up by con men and sold to the naive and gullible.

[kestrel91316]

25. The best investigative journalism ever done on Mormonism resulted in

Fawn Brodie's landmark bio of Joseph Smith, "No Man Knows My History". Excellent definitive read. Mormonism is completely based on a known scammer's fabrications, just like Scientology.

[upi402]

29. Thanks for that. Yeah, it's all hokum really.

Like drugs, folks just want to feel good and not fear the unknown. But they just can't stop themselves from forcing it on other folks. Fear and false pride, what a mess it makes.

[drmeow]

30. While you are at it

boycott Mesa, Arizona, too. They own that town.

[Kali]

32. who goes there that having a boycott would even show?

:rofl:

seriously though, the more gentiles that do move there (and it has grown immensely) the more diluted the influence is.

[drmeow]

34. Well, there IS that :)