LDS Church made several direct donations supporting Prop 8

[GreenFiles]

The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints Support $2,864.21 UT Salt Lake City 11/1/08 Details

The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Later-Day Saints Support $2,078.97 UT Salt Lake City 10/25/08 Details

So enough of this defending them nonsense. The church played a role here donating tithe money to a political cause.

Their IRS tax exempt status needs to be revoked immediately. I don't know if Mitt Romney gave them a false sense of security, but this seems to be a blatant violation of the tax code.

[SoCalNative]

1. Not to mentions that they also made a direct donation

of $500,000 to support a gay marriage ban in Alaska back in 1998

[Mollis]

2. .

http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com/

[ColbertWatcher]

3. I think the church took this up because Romney bowed out.

It was a way to show the rest of the country they can hate with the worst of them!

And back it up with some serious cash!

[Jamastiene]

8. It's like a status thing...or

a competition to see who can be the biggest assholes.

"You must be at least this hateful to join this certain church."

"Oh yeah? Well, you must be this sneaky to join this certain church."

"Oh yeah? Well, you must be able to bring in x amount of cash to join this certain church."

"Oh yeah? Watch this. While the Democrats win the presidential election in almost landslide proportions, they won't be paying much attention to issues like GLBT rights. Look at the cracks in the party's armor. See? They are telling those uppity gays to shut up and stop complaining about their rights. They don't care!

Well, watch what we do next. While they are not looking, we'll take the most liberal state in the US and take an entire group of people's rights away. See? In like Flynn. Move over Southern Baptists. You ain't the biggest bad ass bigots in the land any more. Pwned!"

[PennyP]

4. Petition the IRS to revoke the LDS' tax-exempt status

Instructions on how to do so here:

http://www.civlib.com/2008/11/how-to-file-complaint-asking-irs-to.html

"By making that passage of California's Proposition 8 a substantial
part of its activities this year, the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints has violated nonprofit law. Because it has broken
the law, it should be stripped of its 501(c)(3) non-profit tax-exempt
status. This law will not be enforced unless complaints are filed
against the LDS Church for its illegal activities"

This is something proactive we can do, at least to send a message
to organized religion that they cannot abuse their societal privileges
to engage in political campaigning.


THAT SAID.... all the arguing here is ridiculous, and this controversy or schism or call it what you will is making the wingnuts very joyful and smug, so just freaking stop!!

Blacks, Gays, and yes even Mormons, all have their good folks and their unreasonable folks.
Folks are attacking black folks in general, with scant data, and acting like every gay person is racism free. That's as ridiculous as saying every black person is homophobic because of a few polls. And making the assumption that those who are homophobic are being so out of malice and not ignorance (look I live in a very African American neighborhood and talking to my neighbor who voted yes, I found out she doesn't even know anyone who is gay, gays are just more white people to her-- she's ignorant, not mean). So attacking isn't going to do anything productive, but it's a great way to ensure that even the Blacks (and the Christians of all stripes) who voted NO will be like, "Well F** you then"!!

Protesting the Mormon church for disregarding the Separation of Church and State by going after their tax exempt status: Great.
Attacking individual Mormons or African Americans or those groups in general (or even whole states) as a whole because of an institution and the choices of a whole bunch of voters: NOT A GOOD IDEA.

So seriously, instead of starting a war between two important factions in our coalition, lets roll out sleeves up, figure out a way to reach out to some of the communities that voted for prop 8, and TEACH them. In the process we can do some good for others as well as ourselves.

[sam sarrha]

5. by definition, the god of Abraham is actually a Demi-God, they are trouble makers, cause wars, feuds

they just stir up shit in the human realm, and anywhere they are..

their failing is Jealousy.. "i am a Jealous God.." ..a real God's failing is Pride.

when are humans going to get it together and drag their sorry ass's out of the stone age and evolve beyond the tribal level..

X'ings aren't any F'n better than anyone else.. they need to quit put'n on like their special..

it is obvious, if one knows anything about Buddhism, that Christ must have been influenced by Buddhist teachings that traveled to Palestine via the Silk Road

http://www.silk-road.com/artl/buddhism.shtml

Palestine where Jesus lived is at the crossroads of the silk road, where it travels north to the caspian, west to Cairo, and south to Mecca. Buddhism had been spreading for 500 year at the time of jesus.

where else would such teachings of unconditional love, tolerance and searching from within for salvation come from. in a culture that righteously stoned to death family friends for absurd minor transgressions such as drawing water from a well in the desert on sunday. they would be stoning today if they could,, seems Jesus wears off pretty easy these days

only problem was that it seems there were some chapters missing by the time it got to Palestine.. too bad

[bridgit]

6. Yes. And here's what they got for their money: a proposition written in the negative...

that seeks to inject itself by means of circumvention round duly elected legislative representation and process then into The Constitution of The State of California itself by way of negating every other applicable law beneath it i.e. establishing a marriage as being sacrosanct and indisputable between a man and a women; while simultaneously leaving open by way of scriptural ignorance unions between men and their daughters, male and female cousins, and, specific to Mormons and the lifestyle they covet; multiple unions between men and women, etc...

This is what happens when religious bigotry and ignorance seeks to rend itself above the laws of the land

[Jamastiene]

7. I want to say bad bad bad things about that bunch of immoral freaks, but

I will try their tolerance route. I will mention what kind of immoral, child molesting, sexist, homophobic, racist, brain damaged freak show they are, because that's my religious right to believe they are creating hell on Earth. Maybe those "end times" Christians are right. Should the GLBT community alert them that we have found the scoundrels who are harboring, aiding and abetting the anti-Christ or just keep it to ourselves? x(