cali
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:38 PM
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The Republican Party is defunct in New England. Dead as a certain pining parrot. |
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Yes, there's still 3 Republican Senators left- 2 from Maine, and 1 from NH. Vermont has a repuke governor. So does CT, but the state legislatures are controlled by dems and there isn't a single repuke Rep from New England. The party in all 5 states is moribund. And it's actually not just New England, it's New York and Delaware, PA and Maryland as well. It's creeping down into VA.
In VT this year, the repuke party couldn't even find a single republican to run as a sacrificial lamb against freshman dem rep, Peter Welch. This guy's only been in ONE term, and the repuke party is so anemic that they can't recruit a candidate.
I think what we see in the NE is a harbinger of things to come for the repub party. They're marginalizing themselves into a party that's viable only in the south and in the plains. And because they're so ideologically committed to ever moving to the right, it's hard to see them recouping from this.
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:39 PM
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The GOP embraces the Southern racial ethos ... to their demise ...
Let's drink: To their demise ....
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:40 PM
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:49 PM
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4. To Paraphrase Turncoat Zell Miller...Hah! Hah! Hah! |
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To paraphrase turncoat Georgian Democrat Zell Miller: the Republican Party--a national party no more!
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:46 PM
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3. May turn out very positively |
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Weld, Whitman, Collins, Shays, Chafee et al need a party that reflects their views.
I can see a third party rising out of the ashes of this.
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:00 PM
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6. I wouldn't mind that one little bit |
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though I'm more interested in VT's viable Progressive Party, spreading to other New England states. (The mayor of Burlington is a prog, so are serveral legislators, and the prog candidate for guv did as well as the dem candidate)
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:35 PM
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we're a short time away from eliminating the need for a second party, much less a third party.
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:59 PM
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13. You want a one party system? |
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That is not in the best interests of our nation, imho.
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Sun Nov-09-08 12:51 PM
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5. Same in Oregon. We have massive majorities here, two Dem. Senators now. |
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Dems won all statewide offices. There is only one Republican U.S. Congressmen in our delegation. The state GOP is literally bankrupt.
I LOVE IT!
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:12 PM
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Look at the last GOP Congressmen from New England and compare them to the people who dominate the Republicans. VERY different, aren't they?
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:32 PM
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8. The New England GOP was still the party of Lincoln |
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when I was there. Often their candidates were more liberal than their Democratic opponents. I couldn't vote for any of them after Reagan handed their party to the worst people in this country, though.
The Reagan coalition has come full circle, though, and the admission of religious fascists and bigots now threatens to destroy that party as they seek total control of it through sheer numbers.
It's going to be fun to watch, anyway, even as I remain a little wistful for the decent people the New England GOP often produced.
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:00 PM
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I voted for Weld and would do so again. The Democrat he ran against was a tyrannincal rightwinger, if memory serves.
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:11 PM
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16. Yep. John Silber, president of BU, a conservative Democrat. |
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It wasn't hard to vote for Bill that year.
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:16 PM
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18. Oh, the jackass who cancelled BU football to wiggle out of title IX |
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And made a point of alienating Zinn and Wiesel because "academia is too far left".
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:36 PM
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10. I think we will see an eventual division |
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between one worlders that see benefit in a new world order, and everyone else in the GOP. That will leave us with a NWO coalition (liberals, fundie crusaders, big business, military) vs. the libertarians. One side clinging to superpower status and obligation, the other side just looking out for #1.
The dems still got their big tent under one roof. We got the liberals and professionals buying into the NWO, and we got the #1 crowd (labor unions, peace activist, civil rights activist). All under one roof.
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:39 PM
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11. They will begin to recover but it may take one or two more election cycles if not more. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 01:40 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
"Big Money" Republicans are interested in results and that means winning elections. They don't give a shit about God, abortion or gays or guns. If that shit is no longer getting them results that allow them to dictate policy, as appears to be the case now, they will shift to find something that does, like possibly appealing to people who are not redneck bigots.
Doesn't mean it will work right away but the corporate types aren't committed to this redneck bullshit, they will change tack if needed.
I'm starting to hear "money" type Republicans in my area complain bitterly about how their party is hostage to the fetus people and gun nuts. They know what's up.
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Sun Nov-09-08 01:57 PM
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12. Nope. First of all there are more than a few big money repubs |
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who are committed wingnuts. Secondly, the big money repubs who are only interested in results have limited power in the party as to the party platform. If it's to happen, that they stage a comeback, it's going to take waaay longer than 4 years or so. More like a decade- at minimum. And if they become a party moderate enough to compete in New England and New York, they won't be the same party they are now- not even close.
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:00 PM
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15. Yeah, defunct. Like it was after Watergate and Nixon's resignation. Yeah, defunct.....nt |
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:13 PM
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17. In its current guise, it absolutely is defunct in New England |
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:20 PM
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19. Ever been stung by a dead bee.....? |
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Heard that in a Bogart movie. Defunct means dead. Absolutely dead? I don't think so.
But hey, check out the election results in the different states and look see how "absolutely dead" they are.
And stay away from dead bees.
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Sun Nov-09-08 02:31 PM
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20. Of course, they'll soon pick up a Senate seat in CT |
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and I don't mean Dodd's. :grr:
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