Harry Reid, WTF? Been out all day - reading the link below - can't get it!

[NRaleighLiberal]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/09/senate.lieberman/index.html

"Lieberman can still help Dems, Reid says"...

Allowing Lieberman to go unpunished (actually, allowing him to have anything left to do with the Dems) made me try to come up with a good analogy - kind of like if one of your best friends had an affair with your significant other, but you asked him to dinner anyway because he brings you an occasional bottle of wine...

Now I am thinking Reid must go!

[Dark]

1. Like it or not, Lieberman is going to be a critical vote for overcoming filibusters.

I can't blame Reid for acknowledging that.

[rocktivity]

3. And what has he done for the Dems lately?

HE TRIED TO GET A REPUBLICAN ELECTED PRESIDENT--why should the Dems EXPECT him vote in their favor? He's more like a spy, caucusing with the Dems then running to spill his guts to the Rethugs.

:headbang:
rocknation

[depakid]

4. A bit less than Harry Reid

who as minority leader crossed over and voted with Republicans for the bankruptcy bill against most in his own party!

In many respects, those two are peas in a pod. The sooner the Dems realize this and find a graceful way out for Harry, the faster they can get back to the real business of governing.

[Deja Q]

5. Didn't Biden vote for the bankruptcy 'reform' bill as well?

Of course, Biden also voted for the balanced budget amendment in 1997 (unlike senators Wellstone, Reid, Frank, and others). I wonder why...

[depakid]

9. He did- but he wasn't the leader of his party and

he didn't repeatedly mouth off sounding "tough", only to back off and apologize- making himself and the party look foolish and lacking in credibility.

Biden also didn't fail repeatedly to stop almost every piece of far right legislation put forth- no matter how egregious, nor repeatedly fail to block the most extreme of Bush nominees.

The unfortunate fact is that Reid isn't fit to be the leader of the Senate- and his record shows it.

Time to ease him out gracefully.

[still_one]

7. liberman called my president unAmerican, and you trust that SOB. Even if, and it is a big if

we got 60 Democrats in the Senate they are most likely not going to vote in consensus

That is another myth from the dodd democrats, just like the IWR, if we don't vote for it, then they it will be used against us

Now that there is a Democratic majority, they better not blow it, and giving liberman his chairmanship is blowing it

[karynnj]

11. The caucus he attends should not impact significant votes

IE - as a Democrat he didn't follow the caucus when they all voted for funding bills calling for a deadline or time line for withdrawal. He will be with us when he with us -

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

2. It's politics----a very dirty business.

[Hekate]

6. Politics is like sausage-making: you don't want to watch either one being made if you're squeamish.n

[still_one]

8. That is why they voted for IWR also. They can go to hell if they continue to play the games they

did the last 8 years

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Well, he ain't going because you think he should, and...

Lieberman is on our side in almost everything but the war and Obama's campaign.

He may be a bit of an asshole, but why then turn him into a dangerous enemy?

(This is why Reid is the majority leader and you're not)

[onenote]

12. to explain once again: why reid (and the rest of the Senate Democrats) want Lieberman in the caucus

Its about the balance of power on committees. Every additional member of the Senate caucusing with the Democrats has an impact on how the committees are organized: how many Democrats, how many repubs,etc. Its not an exact one-to-one relationship, but the way these things are worked out, if the split in the caucuses is 58/42, the result is better for the Democrats when it comes to setting the size of the committees and assigning spots than would be the case if it was 57/43.

THat doesn't mean Reid should kowtow to Lieberman or give him anything he wants. But it does mean that Reid should make Joe a face saving offer. If joe turns it down, so be it. Its not like the repubs have any power to offer him.

[JDPriestly]

13. Reid should have gone a long time ago.