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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:15 AM Original message |
If Equal Civil Unions Were the Law, Bigots Would Mobilize to Ban Gays From Civil Unions |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's amazing how few people understand this. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. it doesn't have to be civil unions v. marriage |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm trying to keep two things from being conflated: |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. How about stating that everyone has equal protection of the laws under our Constitution? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. yep |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. Right, but you can't ignore the fact that CU laws easily pass in states... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. In which states do CU laws easily pass? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Well, for example, California |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I wouldn't call almost any of those "without fuss". |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. CT now has marriage. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Nov. 4, 2008 - Florida - outlaws civil unions for ANYBODY nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. NH. Vermont has had civil unions that under our state constitution |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. And - as I said to you here and in your thread - I appreciate the stepping stone and |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
12. Wisconsin has similar wording...denying anything like marriage to same sex couples |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
15. If they could, they'd try to legally ban all non-heterosexual sex |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Actually, I think they would like to ban ALL SEX other than for the explicit purpose of procreation |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. right, sex is only for (a) procreation and (b) republican donors. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. who is they? |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I am talking about extreme religious zealots who were responsible |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. wrong. just wrong. There is NO NONE ZERO ZIP NADA federal |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Here are some of the legal rights that married couples have and gays and lesbians are denied: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. One more time: |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. and contrary to what the fundies will try to tell you |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
19. Civil unions are the modern equivalent of "separate but equal" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. seperate but equal did NOT grant rights to the black community |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Jim Crow is NOT separate but equal |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes, I know Plessy welll. I should have said that Plessy (Separate but equla) |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You can attach whatever negative connotations you wish |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
21. Bingo! K&R n/t |
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