CNN.com vote: Do you think that gay marriage is a civil rights issue?

[sinkingfeeling]

Could use some DU help.

http://www.cnn.com/

Yes 52% 10770
No 48% 10012
Total Votes: 20782

[barbtries]

1. what else could it be?

yet 48% say no.

[BlueCaliDem]

2. Thanks for this. I voted and it deserves some DU luvin... K&R eom

[Fleshdancer]

3. how is this even up for debate?

The amount of ignorance it takes to vote no on this poll disgusts me.

[mondo joe]

4. Because we've reached a point in which even legal terms have no meaning any more other

than how people feel.

[Fleshdancer]

13. that's exactly it

I made the mistake of watching The View this morning and when discussing Prop 8, the flat earth woman (don't know her name) referenced what she "felt" in "her heart". I don't give a shit what she felt in her heart. This has nothing to do with her feelings.

:banghead:


When I become leader of the universe, stupidity will be physically painful.

[OHDEM]

21. I'd vote for you!

"When I become leader of the universe, stupidity will be physically painful. "

By that I assume you mean painful for the stupid rather than painful for the rest of us since it already IS! (I know I'm in physically pain every time Bush opens his smirky little mouth!)

[CAVU]

30. Next CNN poll "Do you believe water is wet?"

:eyes:

[TWiley]

38. It has been successfully framed as a moral and not a civil rights issue.

It will take some focus and adverising cabbage to change the debate. Because gawd said so will win every time unless challanged with an extraordinary amount of fact and reason.

[shadowknows69]

5. That's awful, I can't believe we can't get over this hurdle as a country

Of all the things other people can do that directly affects the lives of others (crime, war, murder) WHO SOMEONE CHOOSES TO LOVE upsets the whole balance of the universe?

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. kick done and nominated n/t

[asjr]

7. Life, liberty and the pursuit of

happiness. It seems to me at least one of those 3 should cover it. Marriage--hetero or homosexual should not matter. It certainly should not be something the government would control.

[WillyT]

8. Done... YES... K & R !!!

:kick:

[me b zola]

9. done

Do you think that gay marriage is a civil rights issue?

Yes 52% 13403

No 48% 12289

Total Votes: 25692

[IndianaJones]

10. I'm surprised the yes is that high. nt.

[UnrepentantUnitarian]

11. Later numbers...my vote included, of course;

Yes 52% 21778
No 48% 19879
Total Votes: 41657

[grantcart]

12. done

[justiceischeap]

14. It just amazes me how close the voting is in their "non-scientific poll"

K + R

[TahitiNut]

15. It's more an "establishment of religion" issue, imho.

The 'sanctification' of a marriage has been, for many centuries, the primary means whereby established religion has asserted control over the State .... typically a monarchy. Just ask Henry VIII. The issue is "legitimacy" (vs. bastards) and "entitlements" (inheritance) ... the power of the Church to designate an heir to the throne or heir to the 'title' (to lands, barony, lordship, etc.).

The "means to an end" ALWAYS becomes an end in itself. That's the fundamental lesson of history with regards to MYOPIC Pragmatism.

[otohara]

16. Done

[OregonBlue]

17. Done & K & R

[StopTheNeoCons]

18. Yes 52% No 48% Total Votes: 56497

[williesgirl]

19. done and rec'd

[pleah]

20. Done. 52% yes, 48% no.

[Karenina]

22. A better question:

Do you think that gay marriage is an Equal Rights issue?

[cliffordu]

23. UH.....Human rights issue??

[and-justice-for-all]

24. Done..Hell YES!! needs more DU love however..nt

[City Lights]

25. Done. nt

[RedLetterRev]

26. Done

As for me, I don't care what they call it, as long as I have the same rights and benefits. I don't expect everything at once. Even a baby-step would be more than I have right now and a baby-step in the right direction is still in the right direction. Let me explain:

We started speaking up for equality well after many other minorities did, so it's kinda-sorta unreasonable to expect to have made the same progress. We've made great strides in an incredibly short length of time, but there's such a long way to go. I remember a time when a gay man could get dead just for being and I'm not that old, only 51. Most younger gay folks have never felt that fear. I remember that feeling of fear all-too well. Life is so much different only a couple of decades later. Everything in perspective.

My younger brothers and sisters have to keep in mind that it isn't going to come all at once; we have come further faster than most; and don't give up because we've just had a couple of setbacks. So long as we keep our goals in mind, we'll get there. There's love in us and around us.

[bluedawg12]

27. DU'ed it & rec. n/t

[Ysabel]

28. voted yes...

k and r...

[TexasObserver]

29. done

[Laurab]

31. Done - percentage remains the same (52-48) k&r

[greeneyedboy]

32. now 53/47% - is that the best we can do? n/t

[mondo joe]

33. I wish they'd done it in parts: 1. Is marriage a civil right? 2. Is interracial marriage

a civil right? 3. Is same sex marriage a civil right?

[CampDem]

34. done

Do you think that gay marriage is a civil rights issue?
Yes 53% 164087
No 47% 144799

[Skittles]

35. of course it is

only fucking bigots vote NO

[SalmonChantedEvening]

36. done. n/t

[TWiley]

37. Sadly, It is framed as a moral issue.

The civil rights aspect of it is almost never discussed in the media