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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:28 PM
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Did BushCo Not Deploy Their Election Theft Hacking Operation For McCain?
I have always thought that the Bushies did not want McCain to win and I have a feeling that they did not use their electronic vote stealing operation for him this year. I believe that BushCo will use it again in the future when the candidate is firmly in their sphere of influence or has the last name Bush. From their standpoint, why not wait a few more years and use it for the family. Hopefully, the name Bush is radioactive politically for the next thousand years and they will not get another chance to use it.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:32 PM
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1. Oh contrare
I would of thought our victory should have been at least 60 40, if not 65 35.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:34 PM
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2. Mclame didn't pay the right people.
He could learn from ted stevens
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:36 PM
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3. They did.
Go read Greg Palast's site.
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walktall7 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:43 PM
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5. As always
My expectation is that 1,000s of Democratic candidates for various offices have been denied their rightful victory due to the pervasive cheating. Quite possibly in the 20-30% of the total vote counts nationally.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:37 PM
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4. Yes.
It's all part of the secret Republican plan for losing all three branches of government to the Democrats.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 04:45 PM
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6. I find it odd how Rove, 2 weeks before the election, said McCain would make
a startling comeback, but just 2 days before 11/4/08 he said Obama would win in a landslide... right around the date that Roves IT guy was being subpoened to testify about the 2004 presidential election and the Ohio system issue. Interesting, very interesting
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:08 PM
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7. Amen, Halo. I think that they knew that there would
be such a turnout that there was no chance for them to steal it. However, they were able to steal the seats of democratic candidates for down ticket races.
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FreeJG Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:26 PM
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8. Have any of you seen this?
To all,

Number one on Obama’s agenda should be the outlawing of all electronic voting machines b/c they are designed expressly for one purpose: to steal elections. We have seen this over and over again since HAVA was passed. President Obama must act to implement hand counted paper ballots and only hand counted paper ballots for all elections in the country just like that which is used in all other G8 nations. It looks like we dodged a bullet this time b/c Rove was feeling legal pressure from a lawsuit which was taking place one day before election day in Ohio, the details of which are discussed in a posting by Mark Crispin Miller --

If Obama fails to expunge these evil machines in his first term, then he can kiss his 2nd term and American democracy goodbye.
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http://bleiersblog.blogspot.com/
On 11/6/08 2:23 PM,


Here's Professor Mark Crispin Miller's theory as to why this election too wasn't stolen, and why Karl Rove, in the space of two weeks, changed his prediction from a McCain to an Obama victory. -- RB
http://bleiersblog.blogspot.com/
http://bleiersdoc.blogspot.com/
http://desip.igc.org/


11/5/08:
Mark Crispin Miller wrote:
Why Karl Rove Pulled the Plug;
Finally, An Elected President


Barack Obama was overwhelmingly elected by citizens in all regions of the country. Unlike the past two elections where the results were contested in two states run by partisans who rigged the results, this election was won hands down by the person who ran the best campaign. This is not to say that there were not massive problems with voting systems in many states. But this election did not come down to one state or county controlled by corrupt officials.

Four years ago, Velvet Revolution was formed out of the chaos of the 2004 election. Since then, we and all of you have fought a long battle to ensure that our elections are fair, honest and transparent. We demanded accurate voting machines and paper ballots. In this election, both Florida and Ohio, now with paper ballots, went Blue and there is no one questioning that result.

Over the past several months, we have raised the specter of a Man in the Middle computer attack on the vote tabulators controlled by partisan evangelicals. We identified Michael Connell as the key GOP IT expert who created these nefarious networks. We took legal action against Connell in the form of a federal deposition. Karl Rove responded by threatening Connell to either take the fall or keep his mouth shut. Connell's Bush/Cheney attorneys did everything possible to keep Connell from testifying.

Two weeks ago, Rove was confidently saying that John McCain could win ten battleground states to become President. McCain was confidently telling everyone that he would win with a surge in the wee hours of election night.

Well, last Friday, something important happened: Michael Connell was forced to appear before Solomon Oliver, a Clinton appointed Afro-American federal Judge in Cleveland. After Attorney Cliff Arnebeck accused Connell in open court of rigging elections for Karl Rove, the judge ordered Connell to submit to a sworn deposition 18 hours before the polls were to open. On Monday at noon, Connell was placed under oath and grilled about election fraud, Man in the Middle attacks, Trojan horse manipulations and threats from Rove.

And guess what happened? Connell didn't know a thing! He had no knowledge of any secret steps
to change the vote-counts, in any past elections--or in the election to come. He stonewalled like a champion, denying everything.

It was a remarkable performance; but what was even more remarkable was the abrupt reversal, just hours later, by Karl Rove. Rove wrote on his blog late Monday that Obama would win by a landslide--even in those states he had previously predicted McCain would win.

In other words, Rove pulled the plug, because he felt the heat, and knew that using Connell to rig
this election too would be too risky.

In short, at VR, with all the help from you, our affiliates, our supporters and others, we played a role in helping to make this presidential election more fair than the past two. Our education campaign, our paper ballot campaign, our whistleblower campaign and our legal strategies worked. That's what democracy is all about.

Thank all of you for your confidence in our work, your dedication and your kind and generous support. We hope to continue to do our small part to make our government more accountable to everyone.


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