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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:40 PM
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American Express, brazen welfare queen
from Minyanville:



Quick Hits: AmEx Goes Begging in DC
Scott Reeves Nov 12, 2008 1:00 pm


The cynics may be right: American Express (AXP) appears to be jangling the tin cup in front of Uncle Sam the day after filing to become a bank holding company.

The credit card company, hit by the slowdown in consumer spending, apparently seeks about $3.5 billion in taxpayer money from the Federal government, the Wall Street Journal reports.

The begging might work. Retailers, car companies and others slammed by the economic downturn haven’t received bailout bucks, but financial firms have. The basic question: Why is a consumer credit card company vital to the US economy?

The answer may be because AmEx’s top executive can’t imagine themselves on the unemployment line. Here’s betting the sun would still rise in the east, even in a world without American Express.

Converting American Express and American Express Travel Related Services to bank holding companies allow the credit card issuers to attract deposits and to tap financing from the Federal Reserve.

In this respect, American Express follows Goldman Sachs (GS) and Morgan Stanley (MS), which also recently became bank holding companies. But Goldie and (once) Mighty Morgan are directly involved in raising and allocating capital to fund major companies and startups to keep the economy growing. American Express pitches itself as the credit card of the snooty, and is involved only in consumer spending.

American Express says more of its customers are having trouble paying their bills on time, if at all. Profit declined 24% in the third quarter - the fourth quarter in a row of lower earnings. That’s reduced the value of the company and made it harder to borrow money to cover daily operations.

To which the simple student might ask: So what? .......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.minyanville.com/articles/GS-AXP-bank-MA-Credit-ms/index/a/19955




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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:42 PM
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1. People, we GOTTA bail out AMEX!
It's my best credit card. I have the other ones, but this is the one I can use if I need to fly across oceans at a moment's notice!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:43 PM
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2. Series?
:silly:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:44 PM
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3. HUGHly series.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:46 PM
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5. !
:thumbsup:
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:44 PM
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4. In their own words, they don't need it to survive...
They need it to invest in financial firms.

Give me a *&%$ing break!
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:47 PM
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6. But their PROFITS have gone down. What are you, some kinda scrooge?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:49 PM
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7. Sorry...didn't realize how much I hate America
:sarcasm:
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 10:02 PM
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9. lol
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 09:52 PM
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8. Yeah! They're not asking for a handout, they want a handup. A handup to greater financial power!
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 11:11 PM
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10. Fuck Amex, they're not far behind B of A
Dumped them both and don't feel I'm in a worse position for doing so.
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