Its fun watching the g.o.p. trying to understand why they lost

[Philosoraptor]

They are soul searching. What happened? They just can't understand it. They are navel gazing, they are looking for answers and asking, 'what's next for the g.o.p.?

Is it bush's fault? Is it mccain's fault, or sarah palin's?

If a republican asked you why they lost, what would you tell them?

[bunkerbuster1]

1. Simple reason: Repubulicans seem collectively contemptuous of ordinary Americans

Median income earners are demonized by the Republicans. What choice do they have but to abandon this party?

On edit: This is an HONEST answer. If I want to have fun, I can tell them any number of things intended to distract. Like, "Your capital gains tax cut wasn't big enough!"

[foo_bar]

2. their consensus is "not enough Sarah Palin interviews", poor bastards

[hatrack]

3. Arrogant stupidity, apocalyptic comic-book theology and tax cuts are no longer enough, it seems . .

But since that's all they have left, what can they do?

Poor, poor Republicans!!

[grannie4peace]

4. i don't think they soul search deeply enough

or they would change themselves more & stop trying to change other people!!!!

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Because The Rethugs Had Clearly Non-Republican Oppnents

and the Middle Class finally realized they were being economically sodomized by the Right,

16 years of DLC rule of our party was a catastrophe - as Truman said, "When a Democrat acting like a Republican runs against a Republican, the real Republican will win every time". Truman was not perfectly correct, but pretty close.

Democrats need to stick to Democratic values, and be proud of them. We are back to being the party of the Middle Class, and the Middle Class amd the Poor, so we have the most votes by far.

[pinto]

6. Obama.

Despite the Republican bumpersticker campaign and all the vitriol that contained he maintained an even keel that was in direct counter to the right's stumbling around for an "issue" to tag him.

Leadership.

[BridgeTheGap]

7. Because they are the driving force behind the dissolution of the middle class. AND

they eat their own!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. "You lost because you suck. You're a bunch of greedy, cold-hearted,

narrow-minded, racist, jingoistic douchenozzles; and finally even the low-information voters figured out that your party platform consists mainly of scaring them and screwing them. Your party exists for the sole purpose of dominating and brainwashing the people enough that you can suck them dry financially. And finally enough people noticed. Too bad for you."

[Crunchy Frog]

9. Because they've been running the country into the ground

for the past 8 years, and people are fucking sick of it. And it's all of their fault, they've all been complicit in it.

[malaise]

10. It's beyond fun

It's hilarious - side splittingly funny and I'm lovin' it. :rofl:

[Philosoraptor]

12. Yesterday I saw screechy sarah say, 'it wasn't MY fault'.

[malaise]

17. Nothing is her fault

She is Bush Version 3.01.

[liberal N proud]

11. The funny thing is, They still don't get it.

[Atman]

13. Notice how they're not asking what to do for THE COUNTRY?

They could give a rat's ass about the country. First? Hardly...it's GOP FIRST now. How can they pretend they're something they're not again, so they can get back in and continue to rip off the world. That's all they care about. They're incapable of understanding that it's about governing, not ruling. But authoritarians are funny that way.

.

[Wapsie B]

14. Many there believe they lost because the gop wasn't conservative enough.

Yeah, go with that boys. Sounds like a winner to me.

[slackmaster]

16. Yes, and the sound every bit as silly as people who say the Democratic Party isn't liberal enough

It's pretty symmetrical in that regard.

[bunkerbuster1]

23. At least it reflects an element of soul searching.

Such discussions (I have happened upon them in real life) among conservatives tend to go to the heart of what it means to be a "conservative", and how that reflects upon Republican party strategies.

We've had similar discussions when our chips are down and things are dire, as they were between 2000-2006.

[slackmaster]

15. I enjoy pissing them off by telling them the election was all about abortion

They go into a tizzy.

[KarmicTwist]

19. LMAO! Nice! n/t

[bunkerbuster1]

21. That's just mean.

Which is to say, I may use it sometime.

[KarmicTwist]

18. Nope...

If a Repub asks me why they lost, I'm not going to say a word. Instead, I will simply smile, shake my head and enjoy the bliss of their ignorance.

[AndrewP]

20. I would tell them to look at their heart and soul, but.....

they sold that a long time ago.

And no, I don't give any advice or thoughts to those bastards.

[KharmaTrain]

22. They Haven't Hit Stage 5 Yet...

They're definitely stuck in 4...Denial.

While many here were absorbed with the Obama/Clinton primaries, the GOOP was ripping apart with theirs. While we dealt with the best candidate and that all the Democratic candidates were close in their ideology, that couldn't be said with the GOOP. It's the Rove Legacy of wedge politics gone mad. To win his elections, he made all sorts of deals he never delivered on and various wings of the party felt slighted, thus it was easy to turn on booosh when he became unpopular and then to invent the world that they would "right the wrongs"...the meme Gramps would try to co-op at the convention...it was as if he wasn't part of the party that created all the problems he was bitching about.

Each candidate in the primary represented different groups...fundies, fiscal "conservatives", east coast establishment, isolationists, neo-cons, Paulbots and more. Their primary turned into a demolition derby with Gramps being the only one who navigated the minefields to survive. His support was always a mile wide and an inch thick. He faced a losing game as the more he sold out and gave into one wing or another, the more he pissed off not only the moderates but others in his party. Now he makes the perfect scapegoat...as does boooosh...both are no longer relevant as the "fight" for the "soul" of the party resumes.

Nope...they still haven't realize what happened to them. They still want to believe we live in a "center-right" world and claim they lost cause they weren't "conservative" enough...they still haven't admitted that repugnicans, by their anti-government nature, can't govern efficiently.

If I were to find the rare repugnican who wants to speak honestly about what happened and if they don't know, it's too late to help 'em. Just tell them to go back and listen to more Rushbo. The longer they remain clueless, the better it will be for this country.

Cheers...

[tom_paine]

24. It's not YOU. You Repubics are NEVER wrong about ANYTHING.

I would suggest they stick to their guns, and get even louder and shriller in their defense of The Only True American Values that have ever existed. Modern Neocon-Repubic Values.

That's right, it's up to the few Savage Weiners, Hannidiots, Loofah O'Harrassments (the extra S is for EXTRA harrassment), and assoretd Ditthoeads to stick to their guns and set everyone straight about how right they were ALL THE TIME about EVERYTHING.



PALIN / GINGRICH 2012!!!

[underpants]

25. The Lost Cause-it's not that the idea was wrong it was that it was not fully implemented

Aside from the fact that a full implementation of the ideas they claim to subscribe to would be political catastrophe-yes worse than this- it can't be ignored that there is nothing in their own history that says that this is not conservatism. Hearkening back to Reagan- or their image of Reagan- while not realizing that massive public debt is the normal course of events for them is simply dishonest. The reason for massive public debt has best been characterized by the means it serves not the end you find yourself with and that is to "starve the beast" to use massive debt as an excuse to the size and role of government specifically public works thereby allowing them to be privatized which sidesteps the fundamental obligation of government-equality and safety.

[tulsakatz]

26. well, for one thing.........

...I heard a GOPer yesterday on MSNBC say that they haven't been effective at communicating their message.

Their message? What message? If you look at the McCain campaign as an example of a republican's message, not once did they ever state what they would do if they got into office!!! In fact, every time you would hear one of them speak they would say how bad Obama and the democrats would be for the country.

NOT ONCE did they EVER state how their candidacy would change the direction of the country......which btw, about 80% of the country says is on the wrong track!

Certainly their downfall began in their blind obedience to Bush but that was not their only problem......

Also, this morning I saw David Frum on Washington Journal. Normally I take what he says with a grain of salt but he did say one thing that made a lot of sense. He was talking about the large win Obama had with minorities and he was specifically talking about Mexican Americans who normally make less than $30,000 per year. And he said that people like this have more to gain from govenmental programs (usually a democratic policy) than tax breaks (which are usually republican policies).

It was interesting to see a republican state that democratic policies benefit the lower incomes for a change instead of promoting the lie that republicans support the common man like Joe the plumber......

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. If they're soul searching, they're wasting their time.

They have no souls.

[TwilightGardener]

28. They lost because people rejected their core principles: selfishness, intolerance, endless war,

greed, fear, control over women's bodies, and religious nuttiness. People got tired of that shit this time.

[lunatica]

29. First they have to realize they're policies are unAmerican

But they're trying to figure out why they didn't win as far as getting the votes and not really trying to look at what the cause of their loss is. They can't see what is painfully obvious to the rest of us. They only think that is was the way the campaigns were run, not that Bush gutted and damn near destroyed this country and its Constitution.

It's not about an illegal war to them. It's about how what they could have done to win. They don't ask themselves if maybe they shouldn't have gone to war. They only ask themselves if they should have sent more troops or bombed Iraq from the air more.

They don't wonder if maybe sending jobs overseas may have hurt the country. They just ask themselves how they could have done it without losing the elections.

It'll be awhile before they figure it out because first they have to find something they start with that makes them realize their fundamental flaws.

If they're truly soul searching they must find their soul first, before they can begin to examine it.

[Uben]

30. To quote the "Decider".........

Fool me once.....er...uh...you can't fool me twice."

That should be enough for any person capable of coherent thought.

[Corgigal]

31. their gimmick has always been the govt doesn't work

so pick me to run the govt. Dummies do then are alarmed when the govt doesn't work. Average citizen come to realize that only a functioning govt can assist when the economy turns south, a hurricane floods a city or the largest towers in the nation come tumbling down. The American citizen grew up and their marketing BS doesn't work anymore.

[Renew Deal]

32. They are right wing extremists in a center-left nation.

:D

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