My redneck cousin: 'The south will never allow Obama to sit in the oval office'

[Philosoraptor]

My dad is a lifelong Democrat. Back in the 60's he was an open racist, but last week he voted for Barack Obama, he made me proud in a way I can't put into words. He and my mom let our redneck cousins spend a week with them, it was election week, and they were in an absolute tizzy on election night.

When Obama won, my redneck cousin went ballistic and hauled his giant, fat ass out of the living room outside to piss and spit and moan. When he came back in he told my dad that the south would never allow Obama to sit in the presidential chair, his words of course liberally mixed with the 'N' word. I take this as a thinly veiled death threat.

My dad wouldn't argue with him cause my dad is a sweety, but if that asshole had said that in my house, my redneck cousin would be thrown out and never allowed back in for even making such a statement.

This is how republican assholes think, if they see someone they hate, they want to kill them, or at least hint at it.

I know that the south contains millions of liberal Democrats, and I know that millions of republicans actually voted for Obama. When my cousin refers to 'the south', he of course means the ku klux klan and their ilk.

I don't need to tell you all here that the hard core haters are in an absolute mental meltdown. Enjoy the Obama years you racist assholes. We got your number.

[atreides1]

1. You should call the Secret Service

And give them your redneck cousin's contact information and what he said. I'm sure when the Feds come knocking at his door he'll be singing a totally different tune, and it'll be a good lesson for him.

At least it's what I would do, but that's just the way I am.

[tom_paine]

9. Very torn over this issue. To do that to FAMILY. For me, that's tough to swallow.

No matter how much an an asshole he is, he's FAMILY.

I also recognize many people do not share my view.

I also recognize that his words approach the threshold of what legitimately should be reported. But he didn't make a specific threat and we all know that everyone everyday says things in a glib fashion which could be considered menacing.

Have I ever, in a moment of temper as many have done literally billions of times, said, "Man, I wish that guy was dead." or "I'd like to kill that guy."

Does that mean I or anyone of the other millions of people who have said something like this at one time or another are leaving trails of corpses in our wakes? Of course not.

I don't envy the OP on this one. The Idiot Cousin's words are right "on the fence" IMHO, and remember even Free Speech we don't like is protected by the 1st Amendment. If I am reading correctly, he didn't even come close to making a specific threat. And he IS family.

No, I do NOT envy the OP on this one.

[Philosoraptor]

13. Thinly veiled threats are preferred to direct ones

[tom_paine]

19. But at least THEN it would be clear what you had to do. Turn the fucker in with a clean conscience.

So, it seems to me anyway, in that light, perhaps an actionable direct threat is preferrable in this case only, so the Feds can be alerted.

[liberalmike27]

15. I kind of hope

That Obama uses the special powers Bush got for the Executive, to investigate all the KKK and white hate groups. They are as much terrorists as Ayers ever was, probably more so as to the results of their actions. I just saw something about the "Ayrian (?) brotherhood" last night. Those folks are disgusting, and even if it keeps some of them from breeding, and spreading their hatred down the generational chain, it'd be a good thing.

[Phred42]

36. That's a moronic excuse to be an accessory to murder

[tom_paine]

42. THE MAN DIDN'T MAKE A SPECIFIC THREAT. HE SPOKE IN ANGER IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT.

What about that idea is too complicated to understand?

You worry me, Phred, because when you talk like that you sound like an overheated Freeper, and that's no way for a supposedly intelligent DUer to sound.

Go back and reread the OP and tell me EXACTLY what that man said that was actionable.

Reprehensible? Yes. Actionable? No.

[renie408]

43. I think it depends on whether you think the comments were venting or planning.

If your dumbass redneck cousin makes a stupid comment on election night that sounds like a veiled threat, you take it with a grain of salt. If your dumbass redneck cousin suddenly starts mapping out Chicago, buys a sniper rifle and becomes obsessed with Obama in an unhealthy and threatening way...you call the Secret Service, family or not.

[tom_paine]

47. Thank you for speaking the common sense that needed to be spoken so badly. 100% agreement.

n/t

[grannie4peace]

2. tell your redneck cousin to go fuck himself & you- call the secret service!!!

[renie408]

45. NO, you don't call the Secret Service over something that was obviously ignorant

venting. The Secret Service is going to have a hard enough time taking care of the first black President of the United States without getting revenge calls on stupid relatives. If the cousin does anything more obvious or ominous, sure, call them. Otherwise let them spend their time on more credible threats.

[Champion Jack]

3. I agree, turn his dumb ass in

[RB TexLa]

4. To say that about a descendant of Jefferson Davis.

:silly:

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Drop a dime on his fat ass, let the authorities follow it up.

Just in case this guy actually has bad intentions.

[Wapsie B]

8. Or knows someone who does.

Make them all feel the Rule of Law.

[UnrepentantUnitarian]

6. I've lived with that in the rural South my whole life...

"Save your Confederate money!" "Forgit, Hell!" Etc, etc, They used to hold Klan rallies in a field not too far behind my house, and I can still hear those loudspeakers and the flickering lights on the horizon from the fire. There would be a Klansman posted on the main highway, directing oncoming traffic toward the field...unless, of course, they saw a black person in the car.

[Philosoraptor]

7. My dad almost joined the klan in the 60's, but HE voted for OBAMA!

[leftofcool]

16. I think the KKK endorsed Obama over Hillary in the primaries

but they hate women too, so that aint sayin much.

[bunnies]

18. False.

Stop the RW smears please. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kkk.asp

[leftofcool]

22. Nope, not totally false...

Mr. Imperial Asshole did make that statement about Clinton which had the SPLC in a twitter for about 5 days in complete disbelief

[bunnies]

24. The KKK did NOT endorse Obama.

I dont give a rats ass what he said about Clinton. You stated that the KKK endorsed Obama - a LIE. A lie which you continue to spout. WTF?

and on edit: the Clinton statement is bullshit too.

[Crunchy Frog]

29. And yet, somehow they represent "real" America.

:eyes:

[yellowcanine]

10. "hauled his giant, fat ass out of the living room outside to piss and spit and moan. "

Perfect description of our Freeper friends. What, the portapotty was occupied?

[bdamomma]

11. these people who call out these threats should be

reported, this is not something that should not be ignored. There are alot of sick people who cannot take this defeat.

[madrchsod]

12. there`s guys like him up here in the north

same shit different accent

[peruban]

14. It's sad, but there's nothing we can do.

These are the birth pangs of a new era, a new age where race and social mobility are no longer commensurable. We now see someone who just one generation ago he would not have been considered possible for a presidential win. One hundred years ago, if he didn't sing or play ragtime he couldn't dream of more than labor, unequal pay, and a constant reminder of social inferiority.

These people (the ones who "can't stand a black man as president") are only a few short generations (they seem to breed quickly) from being culturally extinct. They are already marginalized by most reputable media sources and practically ignored by the rest of the English speaking world.

Don't get me wrong, there will still be a few more generations of racial egoism but the spread of modern culture and the eventual acceptance of it in even the most remote of places will eventually cause a social reformation there, too. It's like the spread of a language or any other form of culture, it takes generations.

Rome wasn't plundered in a day.

[gollygee]

17. Yeah, I'd let the Secret Service figure out what's going on there

That's their job, after all.

[FSogol]

20. Send your cousin this article from the Onion: "South Postpones Rising Again For Yet Another Year"

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28559

[texanshatingbush]

21. Gee, this all reminds me of the conversations in Texas in 1963......

While this guy's comments may have stopped short of an actionable threat, the "comments" made by all these assholes collectively add up to create an atmosphere--the kind of atmosphere which
*encourages children on a school bus to chant "assassinate Obama",
*the kind of atmosphere which encourages citizens at a political rally to shout "terrorist...kill him!",
*the kind of atmosphere which dulls peoples' sensibilities to the horror of the outcome if taken to the logical conclusion of the chants.

People better realize that they are creating an atmosphere of hatred which enables crazies to do things they might otherwise not do. It's sort of like overcoming an "incest taboo"--once it's overcome the first time, it "doesn't seem so bad" the second time or the third time, until it finally becomes "business as usual".

The Secret Service, God help them, better be very vigilant. And Sarah Palin should keep her f'ing mouth shut.

[Peacetrain]

23. If you think this cousin is serious, you are obligated to report him.

Not only for our country's sake, the president elects' safety but for him (your cousin) also. Racist hate may have made him mentally unbalanced. You have some hard decisions to make, because he is family. But sometimes you have to protect them from themselves. You would know better than anyone here if he is that kind of deranged

[BootinUp]

25. +1

[southernyankeebelle]

26. Gosh Golly

Well the sad thing is these rednecks are still pissed they lost the civil war.

[SharonAnn]

40. Around here, the "rednecks" were Union so they won The War. But they're still pissed.

Go figure.

[bunkerbuster1]

27. My reaction is usually "You and what army?"

"You stupid crackers can't manage a wet dream these days."

[AndrewP]

28. You need to call the Secret Service

A threat towards the President Elect is a very serious thing.

[ecstatic]

30. Just keep track of his whereabouts and plans when Obama is in town

He's just spouting BS and isn't a threat... YET.

[zbdent]

31. gee ... I wonder how many redneck KKK members would still be around

alive, had liberals been as much against the "culture of life" as the righties try to claim ...

[Deep13]

32. Fortunately, President Obama does not need your cousin's permission. nt

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[Brewman_Jax]

34. I can appreciate your pain

but you should consider contacting the Secret Service. The gods forbid that your cousin should actually plan/attempt said act, like those idiot skinheads in Tennessee. The family bonds travel in both directions; you don't need the hassle if he tries something and the Feds come to visit you and other family members in their investigation.

[Philosoraptor]

35. Weighing in at over 400 pounds, my cousin is no real threat to anyone.

[greguganus]

38. .....except the guy standing between him and the buffet bar. n/t

[tom_paine]

44. Oh, THAT'S a DUzy right there! Give that man a DUzy Award!

:rofl: :rofl:

[Phredicles]

37. When he says "the South", does he include the Virginia, North Carolina, and

Florida that voted for Obama?

[tom_paine]

46. Nope. They're Honorary Billy Yanks now!

[Bigmack]

39. I'm not worried about the loud ones...

like your cousin.

I'm worried about the quiet ones who are making plans.

You think this country is fucked now? Imagine what happens if Obama is....I can't even say the word.

[pipi_k]

48. What I'm afraid of...

They're sick fuckers who would stop at nothing to really hurt someone they hate...

Yes, they could take out Obama, but...

It gives me chills to think that they might consider striking him a deadly blow without actually murdering HIM.

And that's by striking at the things he holds most dear....his family


Honestly, I have such chills right now it's not even funny....


I'm sure the SS is aware of the dangers. I just hope that they've prepared for every single contingency.


This would be a tragedy of heartbreaking proportions

[Ishoutandscream2]

41. The south will never allow a black man to be in the oval office?

This person in the south will certainly allow it. And the millions of southerners who voted for Obama. Your redneck cousin is sooooooo behind the times. Eventually, I hope his kind become extinct like the dinosaurs.

[Ghost in the Machine]

49. This Southerner strongly disagrees with your redneck cousin....

Sadly though, I've heard the same comments around where I live.

I'm glad they don't speak for ALL of the South, just their ignorant part of it...

[Mesteryo]

50. biggest threat to Obama presidency..

Won't be some skinhead assassin, it'll be political enemies trying to remove him from office.

[Radical Activist]

51. Sherman had the right idea about beating the concept of national sovereignty into the South

and he should have finished the job.

[EFerrari]

52. The Republicans have been encouraging these people for years

and the media does by default in letting them get away with their public hatred. The small segment of this country that was crazy with hatred when Gingrich came in is now crazy AND entitled.

[Gman2]

53. You tell that fat fuck, that if you ever hear anything like that in your presence,

you will kick his ass. If you think he is serious, you will turn him in after kicking his ass. If he ever even thinks of bringing that kind of trouble to your parents home, after they are gracious enough to provide them lodging, you will persecute him forever.

This is the tactic I am using. My father warned me not to alienate all my family, as they are the only ones that care. I have heart failure. I said, FUCK THAT. I came out of the closet. My sister sent a cartoon. Guy sees into kids haloween sack. He says, you have lots, I'll take half and give it to the too lazy to trick or treat. I was enraged. I took it to my parents and was a volcano. My sis is a right wing fundie. My mother is going to confront her. I am too steamed. If she doesnt respond well or closes up, I will go to her church. If they too hate the poor, I will overturn the tables of the moneychangers. I told my family, THE HATE WILL STOP! I would like to somehow show my unappreciation for Palin, that domestic terrorist. She has done more to sow seeds of discord at all levels. Screw the religious haters to HELL.

[galaxy21]

54. There's not anything they can do about it

Short of suceeding.



Although, I wouldn't put it past them.

[guitar man]

55. meh

they'll sit in their mother's basements staining that old chair and playing keyboard command like they always do....