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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:50 PM Original message |
Letter from man whose job is gassing dogs and cats in gas chamber in NC |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. wow |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
115. I get these euthanasia lists every day...at least these shelters |
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amdezurik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. god damn |
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rubberducky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. O.M.G. |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, that was incredibly sad |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I call and write the NC legislators, found their numbers on Google |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
211. you need a sponsor, and you need a draft of a bill |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
159. THat's why my husband won't do it... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. This deserves a Rec. The world needs many, many more people like this man. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fuck |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I agree...would you consider calling the NC legislators |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I've tried such things in the past |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Well, put on an American accent, don't tell them you are |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. Have you got friends or family in NC? |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Recommended |
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dweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. ... |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Damn. I couldn't finish reading that. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
118. I couldn't either, crying too hard. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't cry easily |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Please, I put a link to the NC legislators in the post |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm speechless. n/m |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. I really don't buy this at all |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Why not? I know a woman who used to have to euthanize |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. You don't have proof it isn't BS... |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. And your problem with this is??? If you don't want to believe it, don't |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Why are you confusing my denial of the letter's authenticity with a denial these things happen? |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
227. I'm with you, Oregone. |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
188. People didn't believe 6 million Jews and others were gassed either. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #188 |
233. Oh the gassing part is true |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
249. I believe that it certainly could be true. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
276. You're quite the cynic. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I'm afraid to say I don't buy it either |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You are free to believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Whoever wrote this is an animal lover and I'm sure he does feel badly for animals who are destroyed |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. I think the pain and details, like the 4 anti-anxiety pills, sound genuine |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Oh I'm sure there are terrible conditions for animals and it is painful for the people who do this |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. "this happens every day" |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. These dogs will be gassed tomorrow morning |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Yes, but by the person who penned this letter? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
85. I'll try... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
130. Just because you can't have a special touch with animals |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. When did this become about ME? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #134 |
142. You seem to be discounting that this guy has a special touch with animals |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
193. Deleted message |
TaranAlvein (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
229. My dollar-roll of two cents... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. You are correct, the cats were a major red flag... |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. Do you know why cats purr? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. The cats don't know what's in store for them |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Cats purr to announce their presence... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That many cats are not purring and being nice every week |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I feel sorry for the next shelter worker who recreates the Great Escape for their cats... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. "even if the writer is making it up, he's still telling the truth" |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
178. EXACTLY! |
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schnitzie (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #77 |
224. Shelter Shock may make the cats tamer than usual |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #77 |
265. Cat purring has a healing effect |
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CraftyGal (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #265 |
267. TrogL you also fall asleep on the couch when... |
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HopeFor2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
204. I have two cats... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
111. The thing that struck me was the description of gassing as "tortuous and slow" |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Why are you denying that animals are killed every day... |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
200. Carbon monoxide is not always quick and painless. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #200 |
274. Those symptoms typically only occur in low concentrations. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
125. I've spent more than that on animals that weren't mine |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. My two passive chill ragdolls freaked out from Southern Oregon to Canada on a road trip |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #131 |
139. All cats are different, as are all owners |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. You are talking about a box full of unfamiliar cats?!? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. You may not be able to do it, I may not be able to do it |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. Like Kevin Kostner in Dancing With Wolves |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. No, that would be my friend Charlie down in Springfield |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #152 |
175. Good for her...but... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that this guy happens to be so good with animals |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Possibly, but don't discount the possibility |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. I don't think Dr. Doolittle is working at a shelter in NC |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Generally people who do well with animals gravitate to jobs where they're around animals |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Also, people who are that good with animals generally know how to treat them |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #154 |
170. Gravitate? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #144 |
196. He is describing the situation where the cats which are pregnant |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
195. I have to say my cats are not feral, but they for sure would not |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #195 |
231. Apparently he shares the expense with his friend |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. "Spay" they are spayed, not spade. Spade is a type of shovel |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
158. ...and a card suit. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. I just had a thought. Make a deck of cards with pet things on it. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. This happens every single day, it is not considered animal cruelty |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. LOL. Not believing a letter's authenticity doesn't mean I don't believe animals are gassed |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
264. Give it up Oregone! |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
82. So what if you don't? Who cares? The point is that the practice |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. "If you don't care, then don't write or call." |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. some people do need to be reminded |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. I should congratulate myself? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
129. that would be preferable. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #113 |
256. Edit: Forget it |
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dawgmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
262. Well said n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
121. Having been there, done that, I can easily believe it |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
156. You are wrong in your assumption this is fake: |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #156 |
162. Thank you rvablue. I know of a young woman who had a story |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Thanks.....your experience too, gives credence to this post...it makes me sad so many "dont' buy it" |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #156 |
181. You are wrong to assume that I think the euthanasia is fake... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
214. I've seen this exact same letter many times before on the internet. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
236. Yeah. There were lots of implausibles in that story. The Biggie?...Carbon Monoxide is odorless. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
246. It is DEFINITELY a spay/neuter advocate. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #246 |
277. Carbon Monoxide is odorless, but |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
252. I agree. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. $200 a month |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
280. I don't care if the letter is true or not. I'm renaming my dog Oregone. He shits all over the place. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. oh shit I'm sitting at my desk crying like a baby.... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Jeebus.. you are not a monster your are a hero ..ending a life humanly as possible |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, I don't do this...I live in NY and rescue southern dogs, |
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Reeta77 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. How awful! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. is there a link for the actual legislation? |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I put a link in the original post...it has the main page for |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. I thought that I had it bad |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. An argument for the gas chamber is that it is easier on the people |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. Geezus!!! |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
34. ### Folks, donate money to no-kill shelters ### |
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RT Atlanta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. God bless that man |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. What?! They don't inject them first? |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. They don't give them lethal injection, they throw them in the gas chambers |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. So that's another instance of "two Americas", then... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Many pounds... |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
88. And how long do the animals spend in there... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #52 |
209. People forget that this cruelty not only affects the animals but also the poor human |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. That's a sad story. But if you hate it, don't do it. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. I'm from a small town in central NC, just like the man in the OP. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Another person would just do the job, you are right |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
197. It's a very poor area, and yet the author claims |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
41. This man must live a sad and tortured life that is beyond my worst nightmares. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm a tough hateful old man of the world and I have to confess... |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
48. These dogs are due to be gassed tomorrow in the Coweta, GA area |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
54. Wow. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. This is from a man in NC, I run a NY rescue group |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Ok. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I am up about an hour past Albany, NY |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. i'm not sure this is real either |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Mine would die in no time... |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
160. Why the 2nd paragraph? You have constantly let us know you don't believe the letter. Geesh. n/t |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. So very sad, so horrific but if I could talk to this young man, I would let him know |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. Horrifying, and something the rest of us never allow ourselves to think about |
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123infinity (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. That's hard to think about but it's the same story everywhere. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:36 PM Original message |
What state are you in? In NY, VT, Mass., NH, there are |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
206. pet dumping is so cruel |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Exactly. |
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pop goes the weasel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #208 |
218. Actually |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #218 |
222. Oh right. So this person supposedly dumps |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. Kicking for exposure. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Amen!! You can get purebred dogs and young pups from rescues |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
66. So sad. :( |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
67. My God, this is so sad. I'm weeping over here. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
68. I think the ones here who don't "buy it" |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Honestly no |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. What possible difference does that make? n/t |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. What possible difference does what make? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
128. Whether or not the letter is authentic. n/t |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. I like things to be truthful |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. things can be made up and I am fine with that |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Exactly |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #146 |
174. I also ask - what difference does it make? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. Oh, you can definately learn from it |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. You don't even know it IS dishonest |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Well, if this were a novel, it wouldn't be in the Non-fiction isle... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
189. Just remember Charles Dickens did wonders in his stories for Child Labor Laws |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. How do you figure? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
89. No, it's not that....many of the details are not congruent with reality. |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
212. I don't buy it. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
71. The only thing odd about this story is the repeated mention of how |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. I thought that too, but they may put an odor into it, like they do |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
102. Maybe they add an odorant |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Please adopt...a pure lab is on the gas chamber list for tomorrow |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
74. I know several irresponsible assholes that won't spay or neuter their pets. I've got 3 rescued dogs |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
76. well that was a tough read... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
86. Although sad, this letter was not really written by an Animal Control officer. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Actually, the dogs who don't get along with the others get put down |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. They don't do that with *all* owner surrenders, do they? |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. I know it is hard to believe, but most southern shelters |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Another effect of "right to work" laws, maybe? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. At the shelters I volunteered, the surrenders were kept in another part of the shelter |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
263. The problem is lack of "no kill" shelters in the south |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Not all the shelters I volunteered at. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. What state did you work in? In NY, the northeast, it is |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Canadian shelters. I'm Canadian. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Yes, well, Canada is more humane...you even have health insurance, |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
119. And we are supposed to trust you now? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Someday, I will have to write a some-what true story about our American-Citizen shelters. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #126 |
138. LOL. I can back that up. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. This is why I am for spaying and neutering american-citizens. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Oh, why don't you just go pin prick yourself already |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. What state did you work in? In NY, the northeast, it is |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
108. By mentioning cats purring and dogs getting along... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. I don't like being emotionally manipulated....unless I do so willingly. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. You are assuming you are being manipulated - you don't know that |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. I'm bored and I feel like talking to people. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #114 |
124. Exactly... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #124 |
157. I'm just suprised by the amount of people with broken Skeptic Meters. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #157 |
172. Well, people also value being emotionally move |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
96. authentic or not, this story is heartbreaking. nt. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. True dat. |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
97. YES I AM CRYING |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
106. I'm glad somebody finally wrote that which must be told in graphic detail. |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
109. My current kitty was a stray who adopted me... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #109 |
225. Personally I think spaying a neutering all pets ought to be the law |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
112. Sorry, but the alternative is... what? |
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MonteLukast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. He probably thought they were being killed more humanely |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. And you don't believe in spay or neutering? You don't believe |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #120 |
168. Im not sure where they implied those things |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #112 |
183. The alternatives are |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
122. If only we could get the states to make spay/neuter the law. There should be a limited number of |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #122 |
167. I'd take it even further than that. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #167 |
180. Sorry, I don't want to see the purebreds become extinct. Those, like the gentle Nordic breeds, help |
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schnitzie (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #167 |
223. Oh shhhheeeyit, don't tell me there's a puppy mill thread |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
132. I read every word and I cried. nt |
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KarmicTwist (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
133. Honestly, I had to stop reading. |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
135. Ok, I had to stop reading several times to wipe away the tears. |
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sweetroxie (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
137. This makes me so horribly sad |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
150. e-mailing this to everyone I know! Damn, brought tears to my old eyes! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
153. oh god, this is horrible. |
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
163. I knew a guy that did this job in Chicago |
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GentryDixon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
165. I've been there |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #165 |
271. I can relate. |
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fla nocount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
166. Whoever wrote this is good...damn good... |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
169. I donate to the SPCA every yr. I haven't in the last 2 but I will be again when I can... |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
171. horrible. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
173. Oh.My.God |
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tylerdee (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
176. Damn. |
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siligut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
182. Can't read it all, but thanks be to this man for his humanity. nt |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
184. What a powerful letter. |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
185. I couldn't even finish. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
186. Way to give food to unwanted animals - without costing you anything! Click here: |
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yy4me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:52 PM Original message |
I cannot finish reading this. We call ourselves civilized and |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
187. That's so awful. Poor guy, poor animals. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
190. What a tear-jerking piece of fiction. |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Aren't you clever??? Able to tell that this is fiction without any |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #191 |
194. Adigal, you read the entire thing and you believe this is a true account from an individual? |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #191 |
278. For example. |
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WritingIsMyReligion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #191 |
282. Note to you: Several aspects of it don't check out. |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
192. God awful...I couldn't read the whole thing |
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JBear (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
198. I may live in one of those neighborhoods... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
199. That's awful. What's more awful is that, given the current circumstance, it is a necessity. |
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vietnam_war_vet (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
201. And I thought how dogs and cats are treated where I live was bad..... |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
202. I couldn't finish reading. I don't even know why I started. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #202 |
273. That's a common response, I think. |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
203. I feel for this person |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
205. Carbon Monoxide is odorless |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #205 |
207. No shit. |
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GreenFiles (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #207 |
220. The author of the letter said he smelled like carbon monoxide |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #205 |
242. You saw that too? |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
210. I would be happy to help with this quest, legislature begins end of Jan |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
213. Where to start? How about with my ex-wife who now "owns" over 50 dogs, gawd only |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
215. How sad. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
216. Well written story of true things, but letter is clearly fake |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #216 |
217. The NC AG Dept has the power to change - see this: |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
219. k&r |
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GreenFiles (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
221. Wow... you fell for it - Snopes: |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
226. What a total crock of shit |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
228. This is an internet hoax debunked a year ago. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #228 |
239. In this case... |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #239 |
251. Truth does not need lies to bolster it. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #251 |
260. Judging from the reactions on this thread |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
230. This is the first post... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #230 |
240. Why do you have cheeseburgers? What's your agenda? |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #240 |
255. Actually, |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #255 |
279. "I could not have slept tonight if I had left that helpless little creature to perish on the ground" |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
232. We need to send this guy condolence emails, this is too sad. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
234. I couldn't finish reading this |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
235. I think this story was embellished .. a little too perfect in |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #235 |
247. Embellished? No. Fabricated? Absolutely. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
237. there are no words. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
238. If people would just spay/neuter/adopt |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
241. I heard that the hook was on his left hand |
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dawgmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #241 |
261. Ha! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
243. Son of a bitch this makes me angry! |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
244. I know what you mean |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
245. "I'm the one that pulls their dead corpses out smelling of Carbon Monoxide" |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #245 |
248. You're right- the story is wildly fabricated on a framework of facts. |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #248 |
250. Yes, the fact that NC gasses their excess animals magically makes Carbon Monoxide have an odor... |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #248 |
253. I don't think anyone doubts that these kills happen in some fashion |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #253 |
258. Exactly. |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
257. Needed to be posted |
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dawgmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
259. The facts of euthenasia are horrific enough; no need to create a work of fiction like this |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #259 |
281. Animal lover, but also a skeptic. |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
266. Sure, it's moving... |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
268. I believe it |
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flying_wahini (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
269. Tragic story.... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
270. I didn't want to return to this thread |
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im1013 (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
272. That has got to be the worst thing I've ever read..... |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
275. not to beat a dead horse... |
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