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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:13 PM
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Bailout Price Tag: $3.5T So Far, But 'Real' Cost May Be Much Higher
Tallying up the "true" cost of the bailout is difficult, and won't be known for months if not years. But considering $3.5 trillion is about 25% of the U.S. economy ($13.8 trillion in 2007) and the U.S. deficit may hit $1 trillion in fiscal 2009, hyperinflation and/or sharply higher interest rates seem likely outcomes down the road.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/126117/Cost-of-the-Bailout-3.5T-So-Far-But-%27Real%27-Cost-May-Be-Much-Higher
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:17 PM
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1. It would have been cheaper, and the crisis would be over already
.....if the government just gave every person in the US a million dollars.

Everyone would have paid off all their outstanding debt, closing out all the underlying financial instruments that are the cause of the crisis.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:22 PM
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3. ?
$1M * 300M = $300T

:shrug:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:25 PM
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5. Ooops, okay. $10,000
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 02:25 PM by DJ13
Im math challenged this morning!
:blush:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:28 PM
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6. That's still 10x what they've spent so far
But I'm afraid that we've only just begun to throw money around so we might get there yet, one way or another.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:30 PM
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7. Right. That wouldn't be inflationary at all.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 06:19 PM
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8. I hearing that we looking at hyperinflation no matter what
We just have to trust Paulson and the Banks to do the right thing instead of pocketing the billions being thrown at them. :eyes:

If anyone tells me there's nothing to worry about because these so-called loans are backed by collateral, I'm going to vomit. Collateral is almost as funny a joke as capital gains these days. What was AIG's market cap before we threw $150B at them, $30B?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 10:42 PM
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12. I don't think we'll see hyperinflation
Stagflation is what I worry about, but even then I don't expect a return to the 1970s. Collateral and capital gains sound stupid now, but then so do growth and profit and what-all else. I'm optimistic that we'll see modest growth in 2010 though, given the global effort to address the problem.

If I had money to invest I'd be doing a Warren Buffett right now and picking up some equities while they're cheap. Just as people exaggerated the strength of the bull market and the idea of limitless growth, people tend to exagerrate bear markets and get caught up in limitless gloom too. We have moved on quite a lot since the 1930s though.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:19 PM
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2. Any of it coming from CEO pockets?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:24 PM
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4. lolol
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 07:46 PM
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9. WELL THEY HAVE DROWNED US IN A BATHTUB
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:29 PM
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10. That's OK.
We decided we are not going to pay for it.
We QUIT!
:hippie:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:35 PM
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11. I didn't even realize that was an option!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:14 AM
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13. Depends on how far you are willing to go.
Can you reduce your taxable income to under $20K/year and still live well?

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