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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:11 PM
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There is NO WAY that Obama will pick Hillary as secretary of state.
I could see Health and Human Services, but not SOS...
This is the media needing something to talk about cause there ratings are dropping after the election.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:13 PM
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1. Health and Human Services? Why not Cookie Baking?
Is that a cabinet office yet?

But thanks for labeling Obama a sexist pig. I'm sure he's grateful for your support.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:16 PM
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2. Health and Human Services is an immensely important department
Particularly given the health care crisis that exists in this country, particularly for children.

Given Hillary's obvious interest in the issue of health care it's not a dismissive suggestion at all.

I'd much rather see her working on important domestic issues than as SoS.

Way to bring the totally weak and inappropriate accusation of sexism to the discussion though.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:18 PM
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6. Sorry, HHS is not considered of nearly the same importance
as State. Not even close.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:20 PM
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8. Hey, if you think she's too good for it that's fine.
It IS an important department and I didn't like how the responder was so dismissive of it.
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irepeat Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:17 PM
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5. Whatever
And what is so wrong with Health and Human services, where the hell did you get baking cookies from? I think you read too deeply into his post, and this is why so many conservatives call us 'crazy liberals'. It's folks like you who are so uptight and PC about each and every comment.

Anyway, why should she deserve Secretary of State, what makes her so much better than others who are more qualified like JOHN KERRY? I think she would be more suited to the Supreme Court, not as Secrectary of State, there are better people for that job. This requires dealing with foreign relations. Another example of the media trying to pressure Obama into caving for the Clintons.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:24 PM
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11. Given her background with the healthcare issue, it would be the perfect position for her.
Are you that uninformed?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:30 PM
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15. Oh, so anything less than SOS is sexist now?
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Farmall Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:55 AM
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30. Holy Spin the Story!
WTF does an appointment to one cabinet position over another have to do with sexism?

I pity anyone who walks around with a chip on their shoulder with a victim mentality all the time.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:17 PM
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3. you don't have a fucking clue whether he will or won't
and why the fuck does it bother you if he does? She's eminently qualified and she's been a great supporter.

Stop with the stupid primary hate crap. Oh, and no, he wouldn't offer her a second tier cabinet appointment. That's what's really unlikely.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:30 PM
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14. get off of your high horse Cali. Many of voted for Obama because it was time to turn the page
Time to start fresh...

If he chooses to offer her something, it will be in a position that he decides would be best for his administration!

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:25 AM
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34. Thank you for not saying Change!!!
I hope to never again have to hear that word used in a political context for the rest of my days.

:eyes:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:17 PM
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4. lol
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:19 PM
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7. Obama will pick the best person for the job.
If that's Hillary, then great. I'll support his decision.
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:21 PM
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9. Again I am reminded why I am logging in less frequently.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:24 PM
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10. It's a real leak. The media didn't make it up.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 11:24 PM by onehandle
This is real and could be the deal that Hillary made with Obama.

Conventional wisdom says that she now must be considered.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:28 PM
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13. Oh BS.... He won in a landslide. I don't think that making that kind of deal would ever happen.
Given the crisis situation we are in, the SOS is more important than the VP...
She may want the position and her cronies are leaking to get it out to the media and to whip up the Pumas to try and put some pressure on Obama. It didn't work in the primaries and with the VP slot and it wont work now.

Obama will pick the person who he thinks is best and will not be bullied.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:01 AM
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18. "Her cronies" being the two Obama aides who leaked this story?
By the way, does she only have "cronies," or does she have friends too, like an actual human being?

The notion that she'd be eager to give up her now very powerful position in the Senate to become SoS seems like patent nonsense, BTW. I doubt she will be willing to do so, much less eager. At any rate, I'm not taking this too seriously.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:05 AM
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21. Unless he picks Clinton, in which case DU will suddenly be absolutely convinced
that he was bullied into it.

*sigh*
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:06 AM
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22. what if he thinks she is best?
would that be okay with you?
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:31 PM
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16. Real wisdom says
who needs the baggage?

This is a fake story.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:26 PM
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12. I hope you are right.
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Barbara2423 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 11:56 PM
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17. Hillary as SOS - no way
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:03 AM
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19. I'm more worried about her senate seat.
Obama is going to need all the help he can get.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:29 AM
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27. Governor will appt. RFK,Jr. probably, or another dem. No worry. NT
This actually makes sense, as he will need her again in 2012 after a harrowing time correcting what has been going down in Washington and in our country. He will probably need all of the experienced help he can get, and he will definitely need her voters in 2012, especially if everybody doesn't agree with his solutions to a lot of problems his presidency is facing. Also, if he hates perfidy, he will enjoy doing this.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:04 AM
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20. She did a ton of work to get Obama elected.
No suprise the left wing nuts keep beating her non-stop.
We have a similar problem in Canada with the NDP and Jack Layton.
All they ever do is villify the Liberals.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:29 AM
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23. i hate to lose these dem senators!
we're losing 2 (i want lieberman out regardless) and the media is talking about sec. of state going to hillary or kerry? no. they need to stay in the senate. byrd is getting up there, kennedy has been ill, we need the dem senators!
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:50 AM
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24. I agree with you.
Democrats will need as many seats as they can get.
A loss of a single seat could be trouble when it comes to enacting
new policy.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:56 AM
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25. WAY! Of course there's a way he picks Hillary for SOS.
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 12:56 AM by TexasObserver
The odds are against it, simply because there are several good choices, but she's clearly qualified, and Obama is not afraid to use strong, competent allies.

Hillary proved her bona fides in the run up to the election.

The past is a memory now, and she and Obama could do marvelous work together.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:56 AM
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26. Anyone remember the details when Kerry endorsed Obama in SC??
I seem to recall it was over some bad blood between Hillary and Kerry? What was that about??
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:39 AM
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28. The info I had was that he asked Hillary first for the SOS position,
and she turned him down. He then went to Barack and traded his endorsement for the SOS job. If Barack knows this, I can see exactly why he would be turning the two, Kerry and Richardson, away. He has to have people on his team that will not turn on him, and the clintons were upfront about their opposition all the way, not two-faced.

Highly qualified and brilliant, she also is loved throughout the world, and would do a tremendous job bringing the world and the US back into agreement with each other. Hillary is a superb choice, and, of course, he can watch her better under his wing, so to speak. No need to watch Kerry or Richardson; Hillary is his only competition at this stage of the game.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:48 AM
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29. why do people keep shopping for jobs for Hillary anyway?
It's not like being a Senator is a bad gig. Also, I think she has potential for greatness there, now that every move she makes isn't tied to her Presidential aspirations.
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Farmall Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:05 AM
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31. Taking such a position would be the end of Hillary
and her political career-Sec State is an appointed position, and they are a flak-catcher. Any crap that flies, hits the SecState first-they are the ones who do unpopular things and make unpleasant announcements and accusations.

Recall, SecState is the chief diplomat, oversees the consulate and ambassadors, etc. If Hillary takes that slot, she's pretty much ended her political career.

How many Sec State's have gone on to run for Fed office and win?

That, and BHO would be a fool to offer her anything-1st, she can do him more good in the Senate than anywhere, 2nd-it's very hard to bring about "Change" when you're cabinet is made up of the "good ole boys and gals" When your closest advisors are the kind of people you campaigned against, it's a bit hypocritical.
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ProfessorG Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:22 AM
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32. Lots of travel for her. Bill would love that!
First, why would Hillary want that job? How many Secretaries Of State go on to be President? On the other hand, she wouldn't have to look at all
those senate faces everyday who supported Obama. Speaking of Obama, has anyone seen this insanely funny music video? It's a riot!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0TTfqFZg8
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:30 AM
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35. Why would Hillary want to be in Obama's cabinet????
She has far more power in the senate and she is free to express her thoughts. In a cabinet post she would serve at Obama's pleasure, why would she trade her senate seat for that?

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