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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:53 PM
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Begich/Stevens update.
The word is that Begich is now up by 871 votes. About 40,000 more ballots will be counted today and Monday. Here is Celtic Diva's take on the counting process. I'm not as convinced as she is that there wasn't a little weirdness going on at first, but I'm sure we'll hear more after this is all over. http://divasblueoasis.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=310

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Sk36Jm3mY&eurl=http://divasblueoasis.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=310

I love Rachel Maddow...I really do. However, in the case of the Alaska election she was definitely getting her information from folks who were not directly hands-on with the process. The Begich Campaign has had boots-on-the-ground since long before Election Day. They have had people all over the state the entire time. No one was more frustrated by the early conspiracy-theory panic than they were...because the folks who were spreading it weren't talking to them. It also seemed like there were folks out there with a lack-of-understanding of Alaska's unique challenges, transportation and otherwise, who turned this into something it was not. At the very least, they sounded the alarm bell rather prematurely.

There never were hidden ballots, no "lost ballots" or "found ballots." There never was a "mystery" as to where the ballots were. It was taking a long time because:

a) 1/3 of ALL ballots are either early vote, absentee or questioned...that is an unheard of number in Alaska until this year. That fact is NOT A DANGER SIGNAL EITHER! The Begich Campaign was in every village, every city pushing early and absentee voting right along with the Obama Campaign! Guess what? It worked!

b) This year, there is a new procedure where EVERY BALLOT had to be double checked to make sure no one accidentally voted twice...absentee and on Election Day. Why was that procedure established? Because 26 people during the primary voted twice and they wanted to close that loophole. Who is the one that motivated this new procedure? The Democratic Party!

c) Due to the Bush Administration's war on unions and desperate desire to privatize mail delivery under one of his corporate buddies, the amazingly efficient US Postal Service has had their budget repeatedly whacked as of late. As a result...and because of the outrageous cost of aircraft fuel in Alaska...they have had to cut back on mail deliveries to Rural Alaska. Since that's how most of their ballots travel, we've had to wait.

There were some people especially worried about the Diebold machines and the GEMS tabulator...with legitimate concerns from past Alaska elections and problems in the lower-48. However, I was absolutely stunned that (to my knowledge) NONE of these people who were worried showed up at the absentee ballot counting at Division of Elections so they could actually look at the the tapes first-hand from each district count as they were coming out of the machines. The procedure was as wide-open as they could allow without danger of exposing privacy information. Media was allowed to film everything except (understandably) the individual ballots close-up. The openness of the Department of Elections was very different from two years ago under pageant queen Whitney Brewster and then Lt. Governor Loren "The Undertaker" Leman.

The ironic and entertaining part was that Republicans were the ones baffled by the results. As we'd look at each tape, we'd see McCain/Palin win easily in the Republican-leaning districts, yet in the majority of them, Stevens would lose to Begich. Why they were suprised that folks would vote cross-party to avoid electing a felon is amazing. What it did for me was renew my faith in Alaskans.

Mayor (and hopefully soon-to-be Senator) Begich's appearance on Rachel Maddow was well timed, as we still have another nail-biting 5 days to go. While not discouraging vigilence, his reassurances have gone a long way to dispell some of the fears of shell-shocked politicos, a Palin/Stevens-weary public and my favorite Rhodes scholar television journalist.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:58 PM
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1. Thank-you for this ...
I viewed that segment on Rachel Maddow's show. Mayor Begich came across to me as a well spoken man. Although I know little more about him, I too hope that he will soon be Senator Begich (D-AK).

Thanks again for the background information and important updates. :thumbsup:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:03 PM
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2. Keeping my fingers crossed-
and after 10 days it hurts like hell. Go Mark!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:08 PM
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3. Thanks for the update. Personally I'd like to see no results published until at least a wk after
elections. Let the votes get counted, and counted again. The desire to "know now!!!" often seems to overlay the more pressing need to count ALL the votes, correctly.

That's a pain about rural mail delivery. I really liked the USPS when I lived out as we could get stuff, food, etc, fairly inexpensively (in bulk).
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:12 PM
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4. keep the updates coming!
especially as they seem to be good!

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:17 PM
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5. It sounds like Rachel is getting bad information from someone
who might benefit by mystifying up the process. Someone who shall remain nameless.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:28 PM
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6. She had Mark Begich himself on last night
He said that this is normal for Alaska. :shrug:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:31 PM
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7. Question - how was Young re-elected so decisively?
Wasn't he waaaay behind in the polls before the election - like 10 points? How then could he have had enough votes to be declared the winner with some 1/3 of the ballots you mentioned in part (A)? I have been really curious about this.
To be honest I have not attempted to dig in to this. I have been hoping for an opening to ask some one.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:46 PM
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9. It wasn't that decisive. Young only won by 5 points.
Alaska politicians are often rewarded based on their ability to bring home federal dollars.

See: "Bridge To Nowhere".
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:01 PM
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11. A couple of things...
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 02:22 PM by Blue_In_AK
Don hasn't been indicted (yet), and Ethan was not an attractive candidate to many of us. I haven't seen any post-election analysis on this, but just from personal anecdotes I've heard, he didn't connect in the Bush, where his primary opponent Diane Benson excelled in August and where Don is perceived to be more closely attuned to Native issues. Ethan's rather dismissive attitude toward Diane during the primaries was off-putting. Even if Berkowitz defeated Young in the urban areas, there were no doubt enough Republicans to make up the difference if Young took the Bush. Ethan was also perceived by many to be a trust-fund baby from San Francisco, with a privileged upbringing, and not really in tune with Alaska's issues.

Like I said, I haven't seen any official analysis on this. I volunteered closely with Diane Benson's campaign in 2006 and again this year, and we had our doubts when Ethan won in the primary whether he would be able to pull the votes Diane did in the Bush.

If you visit the Alaska forum you can get a feel for the internal debate. I myself wrote Diane in, as did a lot of people I know, and I don't feel bad about it at all. Given the totals, the write-ins apparently didn't deny Ethan the victory. Even Don Young said Diane would have been a more formidable opponent for him to defeat. Ethan pulled approximately the same percentage of votes as Diane did in 2006 despite a lot of DNC/DLC Rahm Emanuel monetary support in the primaries (another sore issue) and having outspent her many times over.


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I know there are some Alaskans at DU who disagree with me 100 percent on this, and that's okay. I'm just going from my personal experience.


ed. 2006 election results Benson 40, Young 56
2008 elections results (so far) Berkowitz 44, Young 50. Also note that the AIP candidate took 5 percentage points, which would most likely have gone to Young if the AIP candidate hadn't been running.

In 2006, the AIP candidate only received .69% of the vote total, while the Liberatian candidate and the Green candidate took 2.5%. During the final debate, the Libertarian candidate had asked his supporters to vote for Diane in the general.

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My head hurts now. Too much research .... aaagggghhhhhh...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:45 PM
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8. That new procedure re: voting twice sounds a bit cumbersome.
I don't know exactly how you're doing it up there, but it's pretty easily prevented in our area by simply checking at the sign-in tables. We have poll books that are used for sign-in. The election judge is issued the poll books (which contain everyone who resides in the precinct) and the election judge is also issued a sheet that says who in their precinct early voted. Then, the night before, the election judge goes through and stamps everyone in the poll list who has early voted. Easy as pie and the person is checked right at the sign-in table.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:50 PM
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10. I love your posts
Thanks for this.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:05 PM
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12. Thanks for keeping us up-to-date...
I know I don't have to go looking for updates about that Senate race, 'cause you'll let us know if anything important is happening!

:applause:

Sid
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 07:44 PM
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13. Begich did a good job explaining the yet-to-becounted votes on Rachel's show. Here's the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Sk36Jm3mY

He's a lot more impressive than Stevens!

Keeping my fingers crossed for a Begich win! And I think that, since there are a lot of early & absentee votes left to be counted, it bodes well for the Democrats, who did a great job pushing the early votes, which Begich mentioned & termed as "votes in the bank".
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celticdiva Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 09:56 PM
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14. An Update of the Update
This is the update after the last count of the day today: Begich is ahead by 1022

http://www.divasblueoasis.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=312

Counting should finish on Tuesday, barring any overseas absentee ballots...those have until Nov 19th to arrive.

The only places left to count are Anchorage and Juneau...these should go for Begich!
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