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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:43 AM
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Why do you think Hitler went after the trade unionists?
http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch16.htm

Hitler takes Power

<snip>Armed with emergency powers, Hitler now moved against the Social Democrats and their trade unions. In May and June their headquarters were occupied. They were declared illegal and enemies of the people and the state. More Communists were arrested and imprisoned, along with socialists, liberals and trade unionists - all those deemed by the Hitler regime as dangerous Leftists. The first concentration camps appeared, to number about fifty by the end of the year, some of them established by Himmler's SS and some by the Brown Shirts (the S.A.). Despite the continued German proclivity toward order and legality, a few of the political prisoners were murdered, and some graft appeared as a few were ransomed to relatives or friends.

The spirit arose for a revival of what National Socialists called German culture. On May 10, 1933, students caught up in the National Socialist spirit tossed 20,000 or so books onto a bonfire outside of the University of Berlin - as Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, watched with elation. Among the books burned were those written by H.G. Wells, Havelock Ellis, Sigmund Freud, Prouse, Emile Zola, André Gide, Upton Sinclair, Helen Keller, Margaret Sanger, Jack London and the German author of All Quiet On The Western Front, Erich Maria Remarque. As the fire subsided Goebbels spoke to the crowd, saying that "these flames not only illuminate the final end of an old era; they also light up the new."

On July 20, Monsignor Pacelli, Papal Nuncio (later Pius XII) and Vice-Chancellor Papen signed a Concordat. Papen was the right man for that job. He was a respected and civilized man and a devout Roman Catholic. Hitler wanted respectability and leverage with the Germany Catholic Center Party. Hitler was still appealing to Christians, having recently proclaimed that "we demand freedom for all religious beliefs," and he had recently proclaimed that Christianity was "the basis of our collective morals," the basis of the family and "the kernel of our people." Pope Pius XI saw Communism as the greatest danger in the world, and he saw the Hitler-Papen government as a bulwark against Communism, atheism and attendant evils, including the destruction of civilization. He too did not have the hindsight that would come later. And for the Church the Concordant was practical business. In signing the Concordant, the Church acquired a guarantee of the right to regulate its own affairs in Germany, including continuing its confessional schools.

Also in July, a law was passed against the formation of new political parties - for the sake of the unity of the German people. Later that year, Jews were excluded from holding public office, from holding jobs in the civil service, in journalism, radio, farming, teaching, the theater, or in Germany's motion picture industry. And those Jews who were uncomfortable with all this and chose to leave the country had to pay a departure tax.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:53 AM
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1. because he was a rightwing fascist?
You haven't fallen for the canard that the National Socialist Party was 'socialist" and therefore "leftist" have you?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:09 AM
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2. He was a good Christian,apparently.
you want the straight dope,ask a Pope.

you wanna be treated right,do what they tell you to,then die,and get your ass into heaven,you get treated great there.
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:13 AM
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3. Because, for the most part they were Jewish
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:22 AM
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4. not really
the socialist and communist trade unions were competing with Hitler and the nazi party for the support of working class Germans of all sorts and were not primarily jewish organizations, although certainly jewish socialists were prominent in their leadership. The nazi party's successes at the ballot box (where they never won a majority) were pretty much matched by the socialist parties, which was why the legislature was gridlocked for the years prior to the appointment of Hitler as Chancellor. The trade unions were the largest organized political force that could oppose the dismantling of the republic, so they had to be neutralized first.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:30 AM
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5. And Hitler's financial backers, the banks and industry, had no problem with neutralizing
and eliminating the trade unionists.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:38 AM
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6. Great article/thread.......
I certainly don't know enough about the subject... but I DO know the history revisionists righties of today are full of shit when they try to pin Hitler on the left.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:50 AM
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7. They tried to stand up for themselves.
Fascist Hitler had a habit of stamping out anyone who didn't worship him.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:53 AM
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8. Because they were powerful
If you have 10-20% of the workforce who are members of independent organizations that can shut down the economy at will you take them away if you are a dictator. Left wing dictatorships also abolish trade unions and/or replace them with state run unions.

Due to their power to shut down the economy and generally progressive agenda, trade unions can be a good bulwark against creeping fascism.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 09:56 AM
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9. because
Any group with a known conflict in ideology that was capable of organizing was a threat to his power base. Some groups more so that others but all served as examples and served to further suppress dissent and thus manufacturing consent. Also, doing so served to purge the society, remove 'undesirables' (read as those not living by Christian ideas, i.e. artists, gypsies, drug-users, jews and homosexuals) thus freeing-up employment opportunities for 'good' Germans who were also already suffering economically.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:47 AM
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10. Because the working class is the natural enemy of fascism
and capitalism is the natural ally of fascism.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:59 AM
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13. Bingo! We have a winnah here.
It wasn't a coalition of working people who decided to install fascism in the US in 1933.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:50 AM
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11. all right wingers hate workers
it's hard to steal their money andoppress them when they're organized

and it's so much more profitable to make them slaves to your production agenda and your ideology.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:57 AM
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12. He wanted to eliminate organized opposition.
No opposition. No problem.

Jump to the present...

No impeachment. No problem.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:05 PM
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14. Because Hitler wanted to rule, not govern and the only way to rule is to divide and conquer.
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 12:08 PM by Uncle Joe
He went after most everybody at one point or another, even the Brown-shirts which helped muscle him to power, just like dominoes falling.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:04 PM
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15. The unions asked for a new holiday

Hitler gave them the holiday. The next day he abolished the unions!

Is this a good time to mention all the anti union sentiment I've encountered on this progressive site?

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