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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:06 AM
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Elsa Prince Mother of Erik of Blackwater Infamy Gave $450,000 in Support of Prop 8
With all the talk about Blackwater right now I found this and wanted to post if for those that had not seen it before:

Michigan billionaire Elsa Prince singled out in fight against Prop. 8
by Jessica Carreras

http://www.pridesource.com/rssarticle.shtml?article=32757

The fight to eliminate marriage equality in California rages on, and one of the largest donors? Michigan's own Elsa Prince.

Prince donated $200,000 on Aug. 8 and $250,000 on Aug. 14 for a grand total of $450,000, making her the fourth largest personal donor and seventh largest overall in support of Proposition 8. The measure, if passed, would define marriage in California as between one man and one woman only. The state's Supreme Court ruled in May of this year in favor of marriage equality for same-sex couples. Since the ruling went into effect in June, over 10,000 same-sex couples have been married in California. The legitimacy of those marriages if Proposition 8 is passed is unclear, and could possibly cause vast legal issues.

But supporters of Proposition 8 like Prince, are putting the definition of marriage first.

Prince is the widow of Edgar Prince, who founded Prince Automotive and invented the lighted sun visor mirror. The invention made them billionaires.

Prince is mother to daughter Betsy DeVos, wife of 2006 Michigan Republican gubernatorial hopeful Richard (Dick) DeVos. Her son, Erik Prince, is the notorious head of Blackwater Worldwide, the controversial company that made headlines in 2007 when the U.S. Congress investigated his company for illegal weapon smuggling in Iraq.

The Princes have a long history of involvement in the anti-LGBT movement. They helped to create Focus on the Family, a Colorado-based religious organization behind many local and national anti-gay endeavors.

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They have been called the Taliban of American Families - Theocracy at its worst and right along side the Mormon's - how convenient!
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 10:16 AM
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1. Blackwater and Amway
What a team! :puke:

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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:20 AM
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2. Blackwater is a criminal organization of the neo cons


already in Court for their crimes with more Court to come.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:59 AM
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3. The Holy Trinity: Blackwater, The Catholic Church and The Mormon Church
Birds of a feather . . . .
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:47 PM
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12. You're forgetting the Amway connection...
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:01 PM
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13. And Norman Ahmanson -- so many evildoers in that gang
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:01 PM
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4. Always check who is in your upline
Amway motherfuckers.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:08 PM
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5. "Invented the lighted sun visor mirror"
Wow, our standards for what constitutes an "invention" certainly have dropped. Why is adding lights to a mirror on the visor an invention? What, there were never lighted mirrors before?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:08 PM
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6. The sub-story is the huge amount of rw $$$
that went into fighting a minority fight for equal rights.

http://www.hrc.org/news/11542.htm

When people donate $1 million dollars and $300,000 like it's peanuts, you have to wonder what is the political significance of high financing such an initiative?

President Elect Obama collected small donor record amounts - a real grassroots movement. Here we see a small group of donors funding record amounts.

The power elite speak to keep gays in their place- but why?

Defunct rw ideology needs some rallying cry?

Morm*ns gaining acceptance for a Mitten 2012 run and coalition building with other religious rw?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:41 PM
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9. Because as long as the fear of same sex marriage will drive fundies
to the polls, they'll vote for the candidates who keep the power elite in power most beneficially.

Hell, if they really wanted to do something on these wedge issues, they would have in 2004 when the Repubs held everything. But then they'd have nothing left to distract the masses that the policies of that party are only benefiting the privileged few.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:33 PM
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10. Very good analogy - Putting "them" in their places - growing seeds for hate filled wedge issues.
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 02:34 PM by 1776Forever
So far from true Christian beliefs. This hate filled message against the Gay lifestyle and marriage begs to be spate down by the true believers of Christ Jesus who never spoke on this subject!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:24 PM
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7. So Hitler wasn't a man. It was an idea.
I wish I were half the man Obama is. I can only hate people like this. And hate IS what this is. I can't love my enemy. But until we learn how this kind of crap is going to live on.



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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:26 PM
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8. Now THERE is someone worthy of a HUGE boycott. nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:38 PM
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11. dick devos ran a hard campaign against democratic Governor
jennifer granholm...he was spending money like there was no tomorrow.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:14 PM
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14. They are Dominionists..Christian Revisionists. They ARE just like a christain Talliban.
http://www.theocracywatch.org/dominionism.htm

If Rushdoony and his disciples have their way, democracy will be abolished and a Christian theocracy will be established. A theocracy based on the Bible along the lines of John Cotton's Massachusetts Bay Colony. Rushdoony wrote, "The only true order is founded on Biblical Law. All law is religious in nature, and every non-Biblical law-order represents an anti-Christian religion." (p. 113) He also made it clear that he expects that force will be necessary to impose such order, "Every law-order is in a state of war against the enemies of that order, and all law is a form of warfare." (p. 93)

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html
...and Sarah Palin is one of them..

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7235393/the_crusaders/
Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have abortions. In Florida, when the courts ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed, it was the Dominionists who organized round-the-clock protests and issued a fiery call for Gov. Jeb Bush to defy the law and take Schiavo into state custody. Their ultimate goal is to plant the seeds of a "faith-based" government that will endure far longer than Bush's presidency -- all the way until Jesus comes back.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 07:57 PM
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19. Just when is the tv common media going to cover this I ask?????????
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:18 PM
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15. /me puts Amway on my shitlist... wait...
Error: Amway already on shitlist. :evilgrin:

But I think it's safe to say that Amway should be on the Prop. 8 supporter blacklist.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:21 PM
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16. Next year someone needs to propose this law:
All funding for a given ballot measure MUST originate from the state that the ballot measure is on.

There was so much shady shit that went down with Prop h(8) that its not even funny.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:56 PM
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17. Here is a link to the Scahill book if anyone wants to look over it - Blackwater Rise of the World's
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 04:02 PM
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18. k & r
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 08:28 PM
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20. If she has that much money to fight civil rights, she can pay some
taxes. Up the rate on the billionaires.
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