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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:56 AM
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Given that Bill Richardson was called a "traitor"
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 12:12 PM by marylanddem
because he supported Obama by Hillary supporter James Carville, I would think he, rather than Hillary, deserves first shot at being secretary of state. Not just based on his being called a name, of course, but because of his credentials. He put himself out there for Obama, took a hit from the asshole attack dog, and kept right on going.

seems only right.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:57 AM
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1. Well, if you say so...
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 11:58 AM
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2. Are you kidding? I would support it based on competence but not on being called a name
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:02 PM
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3. I think it's time to STOP fighting the primaries
How can we try to unite America if we as democrats can't unite.
Let President Obama pick who he thinks is best for each post and move on!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:11 PM
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6. Good point. nt
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:14 PM
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7. How come anytime a theoretically challenging question about

Hillary comes up, someone yells about unification, stop fighting the primaries, etc. Jebus!
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:30 PM
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8. Simple..........
Because it is true and must be terminated.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:13 PM
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10. because the Hillary haters are busting eardrums with their whining. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:09 PM
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4. Richardson is a wonk with an international reputation
as a tough but fair negotiator. He should be tops on the list for that, especially, but also because it will take someone of great stature to undo the harm done by 8 years of Powell, Bolton and Rice.

Clinton might be adequate in ordinary times, but these are not ordinary times. Too much at State is in desperate need of repair. If Richardson isn't chosen or if he refuses the post, it had better be a similarly wonkish sort with an equivalent reputation.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 12:10 PM
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5. Very well put - and he wouldn't just be in it for the limelight.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:12 PM
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9. TRUE TRUE TRUE
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:14 PM
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11. he should get it. the clintons have had their time n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:17 PM
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12. Yeah right. She's responsible for what comes out of Carville's mouth.
Sometimes this place makes me dispair for the human race.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:19 PM
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13. That was Carville. He did more damage to Hilary than help
And notice the Agin' Cajun is nowhere to be found
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 01:52 PM
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14. Yes, Having Hillary around would mean Carville would be advising her, makes
me want to throw up.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:12 PM
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15. Hillary makes a very nice US Senator. Richardson is a diplomat.
I don't care about primary battles. Richardson is the better person for the job.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:23 PM
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18. Do we know for sure he's the better person for the job?
With all his DUIs, with this REFUSAL to allow a recount in New Mexico (which would have delivered NM to Kerry!), with the corruption that is stuffed under the carpet.... the list goes on...

Would he *really* be "better"?

It's so frustrating to me that there are so many TALENTED Dems, yet the ones who surface are the ones with so many skeletons in their closets!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:37 PM
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20. It wouldn't have changed the outcome of that election. That's why
he didn't do it. There weren't enough votes to make a difference. I haven't heard anything about "all his DUIs." Can you enlighten me?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:35 PM
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21. That's not true at all.
We already know that Kerry carried NM.... but richardson wouldn't allow the recount.

I don't have the time to google his DUIs... there have been articles in the NM papers, and people there know about it, and about other scandals.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:15 PM
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16. Bill Richardson's willingness to defy cronyism and endorse for the good of a nation makes him a hero
:patriot:
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 02:19 PM
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17. A lot of folks I know agree with this. Richardson is super
qualified to be SoS. Hillary could be next in line, stick around the Senate for a couple of more years and reaffirm her place in this administration for the future. I understand the job span of a SoS is about 2 years then burnout.

I think Richardson deserves it and has earned the title.

I am not against HC, but would rather she wait a while, heal old woulds and find her place in the administration through hard work in the Senate.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:35 PM
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19. Since Richardson is a self serving weasel,
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 03:35 PM by Beacool
who lies to friends and then betrays them, NO, I rather he not be compensated based on your premise.

See? It works both ways.

:7



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