....Because nothing says "Christmas" like a burning cross in your front yard

[Bluebear]

Mississippi-based American Family Association wants you to light up your front yard for Christ this Christmas.

Light up your front yard, porch, patio, driveway, business, organization or church this holiday season with a stunning Christmas cross.

Stunning indeed!

There was a time when people lit candles on their Christmas trees and placed burning candles in their windows at Christmastime. But that proved to be too much of a fire hazard, so they’ve all been replaced by their modern-day electrified cousins.

But the blazing cross remained a problem. Not anymore. Because unlike the flaming crosses of yore, this one is not only perfectly safe, but “weather-proof” — thanks to the modern miracle of electricity.

Not available in stores. I wonder why?

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2008/11/15/6291

PRODUCT INFO:

https://store.afa.net/pc-10000310-11-christmas-cross.aspx

[LeftyMom]

1. That's the best thing since they were worshipping a golden calf on Wall Street a few days back.

Fundies apparently have a hard time with context.

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. The only thing that make crucifixion any more festive than it is already, is lights!

It's brilliant!

Especially for the rightwinger Christians who think torture is just perfectly fine.

Of COURSE they would debase the cross - symbol of torture, humiliation, violence, shame, and CAPITAL PUNISHMENT - by stringing it with lights.

The same way they debase it on the fourth of July by painting the US flag on it.

[Bluebear]

4. Christmas is the celebration of the Nativity, why would they celebrate His death?

It's really a buzzkill of a "decoration", but as you mention, the farther right the believer, the more they are into the whole torture thing and can't let it go for one season.

[intheflow]

28. Yeah, but a burning creche just doesn't give the same holy glow!

;)

[eleny]

3. K&R People ought to see this

Fundamentalists aren't into subtlety.

[IndianaJones]

5. festive. nt.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Only $81.85

I'll take 2!!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

7. Not the White Christmas I had in mind.

[snake in the grass]

19. Great fucking comeback!!!

[TygrBright]

31. Ha!! Definite DUzy! n/t

[Bluebear]

35. DUzylicious!

[marmar]

8. Next from the AFA, a "lynch yourself under the Mistletoe" rope.....

..... These people are an insult to their caveman ancestors.

[enigmatic]

9. It actually would have been perfect

if it cost $666..

[mondo joe]

10. I wish there was a forehead-smack smiley. NT

[Faygo Kid]

11. Just sent them a message about it, and wished them a happy holiday season. I'm toast.

I am sure that they will send out people to kill me because I didn't say Merry Christmas.

(I will celebrate it anyway in hiding . . . )

[pacalo]

18. After reading your post, I did the same.

But, taking a cue from you, I "blessed" them to take out the sting! :rofl:

Here's mine:

Forgive me, but the lighted cross that your organization is selling looks more like a "burning" cross, which doesn't seem suitable for a holiday that celebrates Jesus's birthday.

Not only does the "burning" cross remind me of the KKK & its hatred, but the cross itself -- without the "burning" effect -- is more representative of Easter, which commemorates Jesus' resurrection.

Wouldn't a nativity scene be more appropriate?

Just my opinion -- God Bless.

[Faygo Kid]

21. Very classy!

They don't deserve such a nice post.

But as a reward to you, I wish you a (gasp) Merry Christmas, and send this along as your first greeting of the season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hkUpW9ZCBQ

[pacalo]

36. Awww...

Thanks!

[Norrin Radd]

34. I like to say "Peace on Earth." That really pisses them off.

[thunder rising]

12. In the truest spirit of the burning cross ... you have to put it in someone elses yard!

[mcg]

40. Yes, as a Christmas gift! Yikes. nt

[BrklynLiberal]

13. As usual, their spelling sucks....

PLEASE NOTE: This product ships directly from the distributor. If you wish to order other products at this time from the AFA Online Store, please make a seperate order.

Product SKU Description Suggested Donation: Order
Large 5.5 foot (210 lights) CROSSC-LARGE Suggested Donation: $81.85
Quantity:


This is one of the sickest things I have ever seen...

[nc4bo]

14. Didn't the KKK just get sued for like $2,000,000 or so? Recoupin' losses already I see.nt

[tuvor]

15. Their site has a convenient feedback page, no personal info necessary:

https://store.afa.net/t-contact.aspx

[Lil Missy]

16. Isn't that considered a hate crime and illegal?

[kentuck]

17. I think those good Christians might need to be just a tiny bit more conscious...

of the perception that might be created, sometimes more out of ignorance than out of hatred or intolerance? They need to be just a little bit more aware of what they do and how it may injure the deep feelings of others and understand that sometimes...we get sold a bill of goods under false pretenses.

[123infinity]

20. In another thread, I wondered this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4470877&mesg_id=4470920

[jmowreader]

22. Electric lights are for pussies

These wonderful Christian Knights need to quit SCREWING AROUND and start selling propane-powered flaming crosses.

But come on. First, the shit looks like the KKK's been in your neighborhood. Second, how fucking inappropriate is it to use the tool of Jesus' execution to celebrate the miracle of his birth? And third, are they going to also introduce flaming creches?

[NMMNG]

24. OMFSM I'm in hysterics over your reply

Flaming creches, propane-powered flaming crosses. :rofl:

[Bluebear]

29. "Flaming creches"

:rofl:

[TygrBright]

32. MORE DUzy material! Gotta love them fundie nutbags... they make it easy! n/t

[NMMNG]

23. Yet we're accused of "flaunting it".

What a hideous eyesore.

[mondo joe]

25. Maybe I could rig one of those up with rainbow lights.

Then no one would know what to think.

[NMMNG]

30. LOL

No doubt they'd whine about you "perverting" their precious symbol of faith, blah blah blah. Funny how they don't mind how they've been perverting it for centuries.

[TlalocW]

26. For the Fire-Safety Conscious Klansman on the Go!

No gases or matches and sets up in seconds! Do an entire Black neighborhood in the time it takes to do just ONE yard the old-fashioned way!

TlalocW

[ecstatic]

41. lol! nt

[RedLetterRev]

27. I suppose so long as the matching sheets

aren't of two threads it wouldn't be an abomination, just an atrocity, right? :eyes:

Oh, Mary, throw me up some flats... these spikes are killing me...

[VoodooGuru]

33. Can I burn a Festivus Pole in their yards for this? nt

[lib_wit_it]

37. Notice the "Suggested Donation" instead of "price"? So, let's all order them

but only "donate" ten cents or something and put them out of business.

What am I missing here? Isn't that "suggested donation" bit a tax dodge of some sort?

[nichomachus]

39. I think it avoids sales tax

[lib_wit_it]

42. Yeah, so if they have to accept "suggested donations" then I should be able to ignore that

suggestion and decide I'd rather donate 1 cent for each burning-cross lawn ornament, and that I'd like to buy 500 of them. If enough people did that, we'd get those hideous things off the market. (Not sure what we'd do with them, though!)

Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but it seems to me that if they are using the "suggested donation" instead of price, they must have to and must then accept any donation or lose their tax exempt status. And considering what the AFA is up to, they do qualify as the enemy of the DU, no? Seems we ought to oppose them. The tax-exempt/non-profit organization a little confusing though (well, for me anyway.)

from http://everything2.com/e2node/Suggested%2520donation):
A suggested donation is nothing more than a way of asking for payment without forcing people to empty their pockets. There's reason for this, the most common reason being that the organization in question has 501(c)(3) status, and as such, they must justify any income with the IRS. As a charitable or non-profit organization under § 501(c) United States Internal Revenue Code, they must be able to say "well, we aren't excluding anybody from our (exhibit, bake sale, concert, play, orgy, beer chugging contest, whatever), because we don't charge admission, and therefore we are acting in the public's best interest." If they started to charge people, they would have to try very hard to justify that with the IRS in order to keep their 501(c)(3) status.

If an organization loses their 501(c)(3) status, then they can kiss their donations goodbye. If you ask for charitable donations, and you don't have 501(c)(3) status, you're going to get a big fat "fuck you" from most people you ask. This is because donations to 501(c)(3) organizations are tax-deductible, whereas your donation to Crazy Larry's Unlicensed Breast Cancer Foundation & Women's Wellness Center (with free breast cancer screenings done by Crazy Larry himself) is not tax deductible. Anyway, back to the topic at hand: the suggested donation.

More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)#Types

[Joe Bacon]

38. Do they come in rainbow colors too?

That color scheme would be perfect to place outside of Mormon churches in California!