The horrifying story of Baby P. WARNING- GRAPHIC AND UPSETTING AS HELL

[cali]

This may be the worst story of child abuse I've ever read.

The full horror of the abuse suffered by tragic toddler Baby P was revealed today as it emerged lawyers at the council responsible for his protection advised
just nine days before his death that he did not need to be taken into care.
A teenager who lived in the same council house as the boy and his mother but was too terrified to raise the alarm at the time told how he was bitten all over to 'train' the family's vicious dogs how to attack and dropped 6ft onto the floor.
The 15-year-old, who was a key prosecution witness at the trial over Baby P's death, also said his fingernails were pulled out with pliers and fingertips cut off during the sickening torture in the eight months before he died.
He was grabbed by the throat and thrown into his cot, had his windpipe pressed so hard he turned blue and a bottle rammed into his mouth with such force that it cut his lips, she told the News of the World.

The teenager also recalled the horrific moment Baby P's stepfather broke the toddler's back in two as he was watching television, leaving the boy paralysed from the waist down.
Incredibly, the injury was overlooked by social workers and doctors who also failed to notice the child's missing fingernails and his fractured ribs.
'He sat smirking on the sofa, smoking cannabis and playing with Baby P like he was a rag doll. Then I suddenly heard a loud crack that echoed through the house as the baby's little backbone snapped in half.
'He let out a gut-wrenching scream. It was so loud I went into the garden and put my hands over my ears to block it out.'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1086284/Lawyers-advised-Baby-P-stay-mother-just-days-died-horror-abuse-revealed.html

[babylonsister]

1. Makes me rethink the death penalty. This is horrific. That poor innocent. nt

[cali]

2. I know the feeling. I'm committed to being anti-death penalty but

it wouldn't trouble me a jot if that piece of shit were done in by a fellow inmate.

[BlueCaliDem]

7. I'm committed to being anti-death penalty period. General pop. for that a$$

would be the best punishment. In prison, child abusers, pedophiles and rapists are the lowest of the lowest and the ones targeted by the general pop in general.

The death penalty costs more than prison time because of the expensive appeals process.

I say save the taxpayer their dollars and release that p.o.s. to his peers in prison. Justice will be done.

[foo_bar]

13. general pop is the death penalty

And a typically primate one, death by a pack of stronger males. Is that poetic justice or more of the same? I don't subscribe to applied darwinism, but it's easy to make an exception for "punctuated evolution" in this case, yet it almost seems like blood lust to consider retaliatory violence in the context of violence. Maybe a room with no windows but a tv tuned permanently to Dr. Phil, like a more punitive form of A Clockwork Orange.

[BlueCaliDem]

37. Dr. Phil would be "cruel and unusual punishment". Judgment by peers is more

merciful. Men like this shouldn't be given the opportunity to ever receive parole. The hideousness of his deeds against a baby that could not defend itself is beyond reprehensible.

At least he'll have a fighting chance among peers of his own - felons. This was something that tiny baby didn't get.

Primate one? Well, my forefathers did come from the land of the Orangutans. Perhaps some of it rubbed off on our gene pool?

[foo_bar]

3. do hominids go to heaven?

At about 1537 hr, several Ngogo males dragged the Wantabu male about 15 m downhill, where they and others resumed the attack. From that point on, the Ngogo males were no longer in constant physical contact with him, but he was too weak to do more than sit up, and by 1541 hr he simply lay on the ground with his limbs twitching spasmodically. A few males drifted away, but BE, BF, BS, DO, EL, HA, MG, MI, MW, and PI, and adolescents MOR and RAH continued to hit and bite him intermittently. MW and another male (MI?) also jumped on him hard. At one point when the Ngogo males had broken contact with the victim and he lay on the ground, adult male BE grabbed his left leg and bit into it deeply, then dragged him 2 m by that leg. Several others also dragged him again while he was still alive. Because he was supine or lying on his side during this part of the attack, most of the wounds were to the ventral side of his chest and his abdomen, groin, legs, and feet (Table II). At some point, probably during this part of the attack, the attackers tore one of his testicles from his scrotum. <...>

The way the males moved in and out of the attacking pile was particularly notable and was a consequence of the large number of males present. The attackers could not all have maintained continuous contact with their victim, and when individuals momentarily broke off their assaults, they gave others the opportunity to join in. Males could jump in and out of the fray without putting others at risk because the combined force of the attackers was so overwhelming. The Wantabu male appeared completely unable to resist the attackers, and none of them had visible wounds afterwards.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:6dj98JfJJVUJ:sitemaker.umich.edu/mitani/files/watts_et_al_2006.pdf

That's our nearest relative, the chimpanzee. At least we're better at language and making rain-hats.

[Pavulon]

4. We are better at making

pancurium bromide. This person should be given the stop dose and left to think.

If you dont like that penalty put them somewhere like florence ADX where they can just go insane. Room, no window, no sound, no human contact, no tv, no books. Just time for they brain to dissolve. Maybe a rope.

These people are human in name only.

[shrike]

10. Yes, I think our genes tell the tale n/t

[elocs]

5. As pathetic as this sub-human, sociopathic stepfather is,

it is almost worse that this baby was also at the mercy of people who should have helped and protected him--the doctors, the social workers, and above all, his mother. Then there is the teenager who was aware of what was happening, but could find no moral courage to help. What sad excuses for human beings those people are.

[originalpckelly]

6. Kid was obviously afraid of the same violence:

"The teenager was so terrified that she would be made a target as well that it took her months to summon up the courage to tell relatives of the abuse."

And she did tell someone.

[elocs]

8. I said the teen could not find the courage. There have been others just as fearful who did.

How long did it take to tell? Too long.

[LisaL]

17. If you read the article then maybe you would notice

it is alleged that the baby's sister was herself a victim of serious abuse.
Yea, maybe she didn't find the courage because she herself was at the mercy of the same people.
:eyes:

[elocs]

18. I wonder, do you read every single article or link posted? I thought not.

I think I pretty much had the gist of what the situation was without having to immerse myself in the inhuman details.

I stand by what I said. It's too bad the teen did not have the courage to act when it would have mattered. Others have been in similar situations and still managed to do the right thing. Don't read more into my post than simply what was there.

[LisaL]

21. And plenty who didn't report anything.

In this case you are talking about a 15 year old teenager, who would be dependent on the same people.

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. True. Where was the social network? Needs more people, with

even better training and dare I say it MORE FUNDING. (Hope that exploded a few lurking freeper heads)

[LisaL]

26. Well, in this particular case, it would be UK needing all that.

[GreenPartyVoter]

27. Yeah, I amended my post so it didn't sound like I was talking about the USA, although

it certainly applies here as well.

[NashVegas]

34. Feel Free to Judge

When you've spent years in an abusive environment, as well.

[ourbluenation]

9. This is why I am relunctantly still pro death penalty.

[Kalyke]

11. I shouldn't have read this.

I'm in tears now.

I have a toddler that I'm going to go hug.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

12. They need to sack that joke of a social worker...

...and all the counselors responsible for allowing the kid to stay in the home. Those degenerates need to be in solitary confinement with only a wall to stare at and silence to listen to for the rest of their lives. I'm not sure how the prisons work in the UK, but everyone needs to be told what they are there for so they can see what it feels like to be beaten to death.
That poor baby. :cry:

[Liberal_in_LA]

14. Thanks for the info. Horrifying to read. They had a bit on intl TV... didn't know what they were

talking about. Now I know.

[LisaL]

15. How do you not notice the kid is missing fingernails?

Boggles the mind.

[pitohui]

19. yeah it stinks a little of mcmartin if you ask me

i don't doubt that the child was abused but c'mon, this teen "witness" is having the time of his life telling these tall tales

isn't what actually happened bad enough w.out attention seekers trying to sensationalize?

[LisaL]

20. I am not suggesting anything of the sort.

I imagine the autopsy of the body was done, in which case the injuries to the body are known.

[pitohui]

22. some of the claims are just tales told by the 15 year old tho

yes there were some horrible injuries but there also appears to be some stuff that amazingly went unnoticed by doctors and was only noticed by the teen witness

it is a sad reality of life that you can actually have more than one bad person in a room at a time

[LisaL]

24. There is nothing in the article to suggest that.

[cali]

23. no. wrong. I read several articles on this case

and they had the medical findings. the child was battered horribly. he had a broken back for god's sake, and the pediatrician didn't find it. read more about this case- if you can stand it- and you'll find that this is nothing like the mcmartin case.

[LeftishBrit]

16. Horrific. Usually the 'Daily Mail' is untrustworthy; but in this case the story is confirmed

everywhere.

The poor child was let down by everyone. What horrifies me most in a way is that he saw the doctor not long before he died; and even the DOCTOR failed to notice his longstanding injuries and see that action was needed.

It can happen anywhere, but this particular local authority seems to be particularly remiss, since they also failed to notice and intervene in time in the similarly horrible case of little Victoria Climbie a few years ago.

[chatnoir]

28. Horrific, I cried reading this :(

And to think, from what I read online, these monsters will get 14 yrs max?

Hell must be a place on earth. :cry:

[MattBaggins]

29. Why do I click on these things at work?

I'm actually shaking and weak in the knees.

Just such spiteful hate filled monsters.

[High Plains]

30. Why are we importing child abuse tragedies to get outraged over?

And I don't really see the point of posting these horror stories. This kind of ugly shit happens and has happened forever. This is just a sort of masturbatory "Oh, what terrible human being!" thread. Let's get our outrage on.

[chatnoir]

31. And this vile creature has another child, her 5th, while in custody?

Yet some women desperately want children and are unable to have them...

Where is the justice.... :(

Baby P's mother has child while in custody
Published: Nov. 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM

LONDON, Nov. 13 (UPI) -- The mother of Baby P, an infant who died in London due to abusive behavior, has had a child while in custody on related charges, a police source says.

The unidentified police source said the mother, whose identity was not released, has begun the legal process to obtain visitation with her newborn despite her recent conviction on abuse charges, The Times of London said Thursday.

The woman, along with her boyfriend and a third defendant, were scheduled to be sentenced in relation to those charges Dec. 11 in London's Central Criminal Court.

The maximum prison sentence each defendant is facing is 14 years, The Times said.

Meanwhile, a prison source has accused the woman of openly discussing the abuse her boyfriend inflicted on Baby P before the 17-month old boy died from more than 50 injuries.

"She showed no remorse and showed off about how she watched porn while her boyfriend abused the child," the anonymous source alleged.

"She described her bloke as 'a bit of a nutter' as if it was all quite funny. She said she loved him so would just let him get on with whatever he wanted to do."

[aikoaiko]

32. I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.

I heard this story before -- there is no punishment suitable for these people.


There are some crimes so horrendous that even though they don't end in death the death penalty should be the consequence.

[NashVegas]

33. Scary Scary News

It's a shame that neo-cons are trying to dumb down UK media like they already did to the US. Push in our faces stories of unimaginable depravity (sad but true, these types of stories are older than the hills), along with political commentary putting the blame on liberal policies (did you read the link?) to get and keep us scared and looking for Big Daddy.

[NoodleyAppendage]

35. Don't believe in God...but I do believe in EVIL. And, this is the single worst/best example of Evil

Sadism at its worst. I can't fathom the mentality involved, but know that it is this very mentality that must be fought in a civilized society. It would not be similarly evil to rid the world and society of this monster. The greater good must be sought...protection of others.

J

[OhioChick]

36. Sick bastards....

Two words: Death penalty.

RIP Baby P

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

38. I'll be happy to flip the switch.

[firedupdem]

39. What sick fucks! Animals treat their young better than this baby

was treated. Horrible.