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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:28 AM
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"Wanda Sykes Has A Wife. Got A Problem With That?"
video at link:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/11/wanda-sykes-wif.html


Seems Ellen DeGeneres isn't the only funny lady with a wife. Comedian Wanda Sykes is also married to a woman.

Sykes spoke out this weekend at a rally in Las Vegas protesting the passage of Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in California.

"We took a huge leap forward and then got dragged about 12 steps back. ... Our community was attacked," Sykes told the cheering crowd.

"The New Adventures of Old Christine" star told the audience that she married her wife on Oct. 25. But she admits she doesn't talk about her sexual orientation often in public. However, the recent passage of Proposition 8 has made her so angry that she has decided to be more vocal.

"If we had equal rights, we shouldn't have to be standing out here demanding something that we automatically should have as citizens of this country," Sykes said. "... I said, 'You know what, now I gotta get in your face.' And that's what we all have to do now. They pissed off the wrong group of people! They have galvanized our community.”

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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:41 AM
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1. Yeh, I got a problem with that...
she's unavailable and I wanted my chance!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:35 AM
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9. so it's true women really do like a sense of humor
:)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:19 PM
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62. ha. I know. isn't she the best? she slays me.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:54 AM
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2. No, not at all
Don't care who marries who, what they do in their private lives or whatever.


As long as my neighbor keeps his or her grass cut and house in repair, what goes on in the bedroom between consenting adults is their concern.


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:57 AM
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3. how short does the grass have to be?
:evilgrin:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 03:58 AM
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4. By the way, marriage is about love, not sex (re: "what goes on in the bedroom")
:)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:41 AM
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34. Amen to that one!
Whenever people find out I'm in a triad, they want to know who sleeps with who. Every once and while, someone will say something like "wow, that must be complicated working out the day to day stuff that happens in a marriage, only multiplied!" Those are the ones that I invariably get into longer conversations about my unusual love style. I don't have much interest in discussing who sleeps with whom - that's so very superficial.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:14 PM
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55. I think you and I had this discussion once before
Token polys unite. :hi:

Our standard answer is "do you discuss the logistics of your sex life with anyone other than your SO?" That usually shuts them up.

Between that bullshit and "what do you girls...do..." (because everyone knows it's not really sex until a schlong is involved!), I'm convinced most people in this country are so uptight about sex it's all they can think about whenever they encounter someone queer or in a non-traditional relationship in general. Yet somehow we're supposed to be the deviants, lol.

I think that's why it bugs the crap out of me when well-meaning folks use the "I don't care what you do in the bedroom" line. It distills our entire lives down to which tab goes into which slot and it's kind of demeaning. Not that there's anything demeaning about sex, just that queer people are about more than who we sleep with.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:16 AM
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20.  don't understand what sex has to do with equal marriage rights -- I'm confused?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:43 AM
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35. Isn't it weird how that's where people always get drawn to?
Slippery bits are so little of what makes relationships important. I'm always amazed that that is where people want to look first!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:10 AM
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41. Seriously -- it says more about them than anyone else
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:43 AM
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36. Marriage is about a lot more than "what goes on in the bedroom", FYI.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:02 AM
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5. So... here's a question:
(Another annoying question from a hetero! :eyes:)

Am I the only person who finds the term "sexual orientation" annoying? To me, it sounds like "lifestyle choice" bullshit, as if one could just re-orient their sexuality on a whim. I always use "gender identity," but am I just being too sensitive/nit-picky/out-and-out dumb to even be concerned with these semantics?


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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:32 AM
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7. I think gender identity refers to whether you identify as a male or a female, and not
who you are sexually attracted to. Like people who are transgendered or transsexual.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:34 AM
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8. Here's an answer.
I don't know if you are the only person that finds the term "sexual orientation" annoying, but I know some don't care for it because it sounds "too sterile." They feel it is too clinical and not descriptive of a a person as a whole. I, personally, disagree. I find the tern to be appropriate. To me, "orientation" sounds more like something a person is (by birth); it is how someone is "wired."

Gender identity is something different all together. Gender is male, female, hermaphroditic, or androgynous. Like an "orientation," an "identity" could also be changed, and, IMHO, changed more easily, in some cases.

Did I make any sense?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 PM
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49. You make perfect sense!
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 12:36 PM by intheflow
When you say sexual identity can easily be changed, of course you are right on target. Being straight can have such limitations on how one sees the world!

Thanks for the answer. :hi:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:24 AM
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13. I use "sexual orientation". It's FAR better than "sexual preference"
Which DOES donote a "choice".
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:29 PM
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51. Oh, yes!
Now that you say it, I realize that I was translating "orientation" as "preference" in my head. :crazy: Thanks for reminding me what it really means.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:34 PM
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57. I understand.
You were asking a perfectly good question. I get sort of defensive when I see someone using "sexual preference"...because then I'll unfortunately see "lifestyle choice" and "I don't care what they do in the bedroom, I don't want them to flaunt themselves on the rest of us" after that...it gets annoying.

:hi:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:44 AM
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17. Sexual orientation doesn't bother me
Gender identity is different. It's what gender you identify as.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:17 AM
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21. Gender ID is TOTALLY different than sexual orientation
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:59 AM
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30. "Dad, we had a sexual orientation in school today." It's for that reason I prefer homolicious.
:P
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:05 AM
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39. I think Gore Vidal advocated the term "homosexualist"
:rofl:

"Sexual orientation" is fine, trust us. It's nice and neutral, and that's good.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:33 PM
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52. OMG!
Can this straight girl co-opt and use the term homolicious? I think that may become my new favorite word.:bounce:


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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:16 AM
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48. How about "sexual identity"?
It covers a spectrum, where to me, "orientation" has always connoted a specific point or even the ol' binary way of looking at it.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:34 PM
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53. Now that's a diplomatic answer.
Taking the best of each expression and uniting them for one inclusive, precise term. :thumbsup:
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:04 AM
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6. All I'm interested in...
Is did she really work for the NSA? And if so, what does she know?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:35 AM
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10. She's so hot.
Seriously, I've had a crush on Wanda for years.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 04:56 AM
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11. Wanda Sykes is way cool
Loved her before and love her even more now. I'll bet her wife is as amazing as she is.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:27 AM
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14. I love her interaction with larry David..and when she was on
Fat Actress too :) She;s funny as hell :)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:08 AM
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18. Her comic interactions with Larry David are brilliant.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:37 AM
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15. That's puts the season opener of "New Adventures of Old Christine" in a new light.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 06:39 AM by SurferBoy
Wanda's character on the show finds out she's not legal anymore after her divorce (she immigrated and married some guy back when they were both in college). She's in danger of being deported as a result. Christine offered to marry her under CA's gay marriage allowance (before Prop 8) so she could stay. They kissed and everything. Although, getting to that point was the hilarious theme of the episode.

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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:12 AM
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16. I'm shocked - shocked I tell ya.
Good on Wanda for standing up to be counted.

another reason to like her.


I hope in my lifetime we can get to the point where someone can go on about their life and not have to stand up be counted over who they love.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:11 AM
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19. She's awesome. n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:18 AM
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22. A deleted subthread? WTF?
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:32 AM
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24. Some sensitive soul
Posted something along the lines of ... Wanda Sykes is lez? He never would have guessed!

And yes, he used "lez"

Guess he didn't think it was offensive. I did, but I chose to ignore it. I didn't waste my time alerting on it - figured it would serve as a good example, but I guess someone alerted on it.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:48 AM
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27. Wand Sykes is a lez? I never would have guessed!
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 08:50 AM by originalpckelly
:rofl:

Lez? Really? Is that like Pez for lesbians?

Lez dispenser: mother of more than one lesbian.

"That lady is a lez dispenser."

"What do you mean?"

"She's had more than one lesbian girl."

"Oh."
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:52 AM
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28. Oh boy
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:53 AM
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29. We must give him credit...
after all for him to have picked his knuckles off the ground just to type that must have been a real chore for that knuckle-dragger.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:20 AM
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23. Ok, I had no clue she was even gay
God I'm such a dumbass

Good for you Wanda - if anyone can kick asses my money is on you
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:46 AM
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26. OMG! You mean there are people in this world who don't fall into the normal stereotypes of...
gay/lesbian?

:wow:

I'm shocked!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:59 AM
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31. It's not that - it's just that at this point alot of Hollywood is out
and perhaps no one sent me the memo.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:02 AM
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33. As I'm fond of saying, "TEH GAYS ARE EVERYWHERE!"
:P
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:31 AM
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42. I understand the confusion, but in reality
almost none of 'Hollywood' is out. That is the fact. Few are out in public, be they actors or producers or anything else. It is still a huge career risk. The entertainment industry is far less open than many people think.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:53 AM
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46. Like Bunny had said - she was one married to a man
and I remember her doing standup making jokes about him. So although you are right on your point, for the most part everything pointed to the fact that she was straight.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:01 AM
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32. Well, to be fair, she used to be married. To a man.
I didn't realize she was bi and/or lesbian either.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:53 AM
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37. I seem to recall her joking about her husband
:shrug:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:37 AM
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44. Yeah, back when she was Wanda Sykes-Hall.
She joked about her husband a lot.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:06 AM
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40. I didn't know either, but agree: good person for kicking ass.
:hi:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:45 AM
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25. Score one point for the homos.
We've got another good one on our side! AHAHAHAHAHA! TEH GAYS ARE EVERYWHERE!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:56 AM
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38. i love Wanda, she used to be a writer on The Chris Rock show and every now
and then she'd be in a sketch, always hilarious and just seems like a good person.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:53 AM
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45. God that was the greatest show!
And Wanda is always funny. Always funny is my highest compliment. I just love her. I watch anything with Wanda. I'm glad she's speaking out. Happy for her, and for us.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:36 AM
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43. I adore Wanda Sykes.
She is funny....very funny.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:09 AM
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47. And, That's All That Matters
Who she married should matter to nobody. If she's funny, and she's happy, that's good enough.
The Professor
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:26 PM
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50. Maybe she'll lead the charge to call out
all those black homophobes responsible for H8 passing, especially the churchified ones. Yeah, THAT'S the ticket!!! Nothing any of the rest of us had to say made a dent, GO WANDA!!! They LIKE YOU! They REALLY like YOU! :evilgrin:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 12:35 PM
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54. Got no problem with it, and wouldn't say anything if I did
Wanda could whip my butt, both verbally and physically.

I love Wanda Sykes. You go girl!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:18 PM
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56. Good for her for outing herself and her partner. It matters for young
gay or lesbian kids to have more people to look up to.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:39 PM
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59. Positve role models and pride, a great thing.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:52 PM
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60. I'm not gay but I did get lost in my teenage years by admiring the wrong
family (not my own). I ended up as a ninny until I was 25. Wasted years and made myself vulnerable to being stalked (since I was naive).

I can just imagine how awful it would be to be a gay or lesbian teen and needing someone outside of family to admire and model on. Wanda has done a great thing.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:38 PM
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58. I'm looking forward to some good comedy bits from Wanda
I imagine she is going to use her wit to skewer some anti- GLBTQ related issues as only she can.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 02:35 PM
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61. How about Wanda Sykes vs. T.D.Jakes?
It would SO need to be pay-per-view!!!
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