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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:52 AM
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Baltimore's Cardinal Stafford: Obama is 'apocalyptic'
Holy moly! :crazy:

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Baltimore's own James Francis Cardinal Stafford at Catholic University last week:

His Eminence James Francis Cardinal Stafford criticized President-elect Barack Obama as “aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic,“ and said he campaigned on an “extremist anti-life platform,” Thursday night in Keane Auditorium during his lecture “Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II: Being True in Body and Soul.“

“For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden,” Stafford said, comparing America’s future with Obama as president to Jesus’ agony in the garden. “On November 4, 2008, America suffered a cultural earthquake.”

Cardinal Stafford said Catholics must deal with the “hot, angry tears of betrayal” by beginning a new sentiment where one is “with Jesus, sick because of love.”

The lecture, hosted by the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family, pertained to Humanae Vitae, a papal encyclical written by Pope Paul VI in 1968 and celebrating its 40 anniversary this year.

Stafford also spoke about the decline of a respect for human life and the need for Catholics to return to the original values of marriage and human dignity.

“If 1968 was the year of America’s ‘suicide attempt,’ 2008 is the year of America’s exhaustion,” said Stafford, an American Cardinal and Major Penitentiary of the Apostolic Penitentiary for the Tribunal of the Holy See. “In the intervening 40 years since Humanae Vitae, the United States has been thrown upon ruins.”

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/hancock/blog/2008/11/cardinal_stafford_obama_is_apo.html
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:00 AM
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1. Oh, good Lord.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 06:04 AM by Heidi
If he gives half a crap about "human dignity," he and his peers should treat people with dignity. Sounds like Cardinal Stafford is having a problem seeing the forest due to all of the trees.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:03 AM
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2. Celibates expounding on marriage
is like Palin giving lectures on geography.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:14 AM
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3. Jesus loved the little children but not in that way mr. cardinal sir.
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summer borealis Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:19 AM
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4. are ALL these people insane???
Please take your ignorant religion and just go away.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:28 AM
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5. Fuck him too
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:36 AM
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6. With his own lightning bolts!
And no taxpayer funded KY Jelly!

The voters just tried to separate church from state like our founders advised us to ALWAYS do.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:39 AM
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7. Well, Francis Cardinal Stafford appears
to be an idiot and not worth listening to. Buh Bye Cardinal Numbnuts.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:40 AM
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8. "original values of marriage"
You mean the act of "ownership" when a man "takes" a bride?

:argh:
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:43 AM
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9. No. Obama is apocalicious! n/t
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:00 AM
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10. I wonder what his views on the Iraq war and dropping bombs on wedding parties?
"Stafford also spoke about the decline of a respect for human life ..." Read only life from conception to birth.

I'm betting he voted straight republican all his life.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:01 AM
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11. Cool, does that mean the Rapture will be removing all the morans soon?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:35 AM
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12. Someone has been dipping into the communion wine!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:53 AM
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13. Ecclesiastical attention whore
Why are these Opus Dei types crawling out of the woodwork to criticize Obama?

Exactly how is Obama worse than the Shrub?

Bush has left a path of death, destruction and hatred but suddenly he's the good guy because he's said some things against abortion?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 07:59 AM
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14. Because he's a communist baby-killer, of course! Didn't you get the meme(o)?
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 08:00 AM by JHB
Maybe it's Opus D'Oh 's ceremonial wine: 11% alcohol and 60% Koolaid
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:02 AM
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15. Another shining example that wisdom does not necessarily come with age. n/t
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 08:20 AM
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16. "hot, angry tears of betrayal"
are what I've felt for the last 8 years with Bush. So many lies and so much stolen, including lives.:cry:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:30 AM
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17. shouldn't he be a Baltimore Oriole? btw the term is Barackalyptic God boy.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:33 AM
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18. “hot, angry tears of betrayal”
Dude has inhaled too much candle wax.....The Catholic Church, from an organizational standpoint, has become one cruel joke.


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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:36 AM
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19. And when did he say that B*sh is
“aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic,“. One would think that would be much more apropos.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:37 AM
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20. And the Catholic church becomes a little less relevant
I'm not anti-church. I know people who get a lot of good from their involvement with their churches, and that includes Catholics. But Obama won the election, which means most people voted for him, and the language he uses is ridiculous and makes him look silly and out of touch, and because he's representing the Catholic church, makes the church also look silly and out of touch.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:39 AM
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21. Anti-life? Has the meaning of all English words suddenly changed?
Obama's not the one who killed half a million civilians in Iraq.
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