Sorry DU and America. During early years of DU I actually defended Lieberman.

[KittyWampus]

After all, he does have a socially liberal voting record. As a Progressive, I accept the utility of occasionally putting on a Centrist face.

But as years went on, and Bush's outrages piled up, Lieberman would make a sick habit of undercutting Democrats and their positions on vital Foreign Policy issues.

And it's not about being a dogmatic Democrat. It was about posing SOME sort of opposition to NeoCons.

So somewhere around 2004, I stopped sticking up for Lieberman. Getting labeled a "DLC'er" never bothered me cause the way it's used on DU, it sounds so much like "poopie-head".

After hearing Joe got to keep his Chair today, I just had a brief, momentary dark thought totally uncharacteristic for me.

IMO, this was a very bad move. Nothing Joe can contribute is worth having him in that Chair. And it's a certainty he will undercut Democrats and Obama in the future. Even if it's some off-the-record quote or anonymous info he gives to the Press. Or Republicans.

Before closing this, I also want to express my remorse for sticking up for Harry Reid and the Senate. So often, I've given he and his "leadership" a pass. I started and lead a local woman's group, and even in that little world, politics becomes a tricky business where you have to do stuff you don't like.

I won't say a word backing up Reid's cave ins and incompetence ever again.

They really do live in a hideously elite bubble. They really are beholden to corporate interests above all else. They really are unwilling to play hard ball. And I want to rant about a group representing a foreign version of the NeoCons but that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

In short I take back every word said defending Lieberman and his sorry traitorous ass.

[Cronus Protagonist]

1. On the positive side, he has to be crapping in his pants about losing his seat now!

Perhaps that threat will keep him more amenable to our wishes. Kicking him out would set him free... freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

Now what we have to do is make him lose his next election so the only chair he'll have is at the local barber shop.

[Fuzz]

2. When I lived in CT, I voted for him for Senate. Back when he was a Democrat

:(

[Gman]

3. I have a picture of myself and Lieberman taken at the Boston DNC in 2004

I have always liked Lieberman. I think he's a very good man. I don't at all agree with his positions on the war and very few positions on Israel, but that's only a small part of the big picture where Lieberman is really good.

[RiverStone]

4. Ya got it - an elite bubble

They live in.

Ignore the will of the voters on this - 100% percent fuck your opinion on Loserman (they say to us with the 43-12 secret vote).

Alas, bigger fish to fry than too much focus on this traitorous prick. I'll move on, but have ranted about it today and I appreciate that you have taken back those words. Wise move. :)