Why is Lieberman so important?

[Lost-in-FL]

Why are we giving him so much credit? That is exactly what we are doing and he is laughing his ass all the way to the bank.

Stop giving him so much credit. We are the majority and we will have a new Democratic President starting January. We have to do things differently and there are many ways other than causing a fight over a fucking seat.

[KittyWampus]

1. Because his Chair holds a certain amount of Power which he failed to use over these last miserable

years. And he cannot be trusted to use that Power in the future wisely. And Democrats actually don't have any way to control Lieberman now that they've let him remain in that valuable, desirable position.

[Gman]

2. Lieberman could very well end up being #60

which is, literally, everything.

[Lost-in-FL]

8. 59, 60... we still have a majority.

If a measure fails to pass because of filibuster, we only have republicans to blame. so?

[Gman]

21. You sound like you'd rather change nothing and blame

than get things done that are in dire need of fixing. That does nothing but waste time while people suffer.

[Lost-in-FL]

23. Lets give the new administration a chance.

There has to be a reason why Obama thought it was better like this. We waited for Bush to be out for 8 years, lets wait til Jan and see what is going to happen. I still want Reid out tho.

BTW, if I didn't want nothing changed, I wouldn't bother being here.

[Junkdrawer]

24. I seem to remember Lieberman voting against Democrats on cloture votes...

more often than not....

[LynneSin]

3. Because the elections were 2 weeks ago and time to get back to the norm here at DU

:shrug:

[Lost-in-FL]

5. I think so. nt

[elocs]

12. There is a norm here at DU? I think the norm is not to have a norm.

The Lieberman thing is over and the vote was not even close. Complaining and moaning about that will change nothing other than making the poster feel better for venting and a big percentage of DU is about venting.

[azurnoir]

4. The only "credit" Lieberman gets

is that if the undecided Senate races all go to Dems Lieberman would be the 60th vote there by presumably making the Senate filibuster proof however Lieberman can not be trusted he is without a doubt the republican mole in the Democratic Caucus, and I would say he is more likely to make sure the republicans can filibuster anything.

[Lost-in-FL]

6. At least we know who the mole is. nt

[tsuki]

7. Hey, Senate Democrats...how's supporting good buddy Lieberman

over the choice of Conn. Democrats, Ned Lamont, working out for you.

Putz...

[Lost-in-FL]

9. That's what I say. nt

[lovuian]

10. He is HOMELAND SECURITY chair thats WHY

and thats IMPORTANT on Protecting us and he has allowed 911 Bull crap which all America KNOWS its Bull crap

[Lost-in-FL]

16. Homeland Security has proved to be so effective.

You never know, it could disappear just the same way it was created.

[bdamomma]

27. exactly

are they investigating cargo that comes in our ports, haven't heard anything about that huh?

[lovuian]

29. Nope Homeland Security is a JOKE

the ports will be hit

[gravity]

11. He is the biggest wuss of the senate

The only thing Lieberman does well is kiss ass. I am not worried about him one bit as long as we are in power

[KoKo]

13. He's important for many reasons. One is that he helped steal the 2000 Election.

and his record since has been helpfull to some.

[Lost-in-FL]

18. Thank Nader for that and Katherine Harris. nt

[gollygee]

14. He has too much power right now

He will be courted every vote. I don't like it.

[kath]

15. HE STOOD ON STAGE NEXT TO McC AND FUCKING **BOOED** OBAMA.

unforgivable. Period.

He is lower than whaleshit.

[Lost-in-FL]

17. Thank CT. nt

[notadmblnd]

19. He's got the dirt on everybody?

:shrug:

[Caliman73]

20. I don't think it is that he is so important as it is what he represents.

He is a complete and utter traitor. Say what you might against Bill and Hillary and how her campaign attacked PE Obama in the primaries. They came out and supported him after. Lieberman received then Senator Obama's support for his election. When he lost he just switched sides and lost all sense of loyalty. He lied and slandered PE Obama. He is getting NO consequences for this. NONE. When someone stabs you in the back you at least make it impossible for them to do it again. You also send a message to other potential traitors, that there will be consequences for that type of disloyalty. We aren't talking about a vote against party lines here, we are talking about coming out against a candidate from your party. We are talking about smearing said candidate and questioning not only his competence but his loyalty to the nation. We are talking about speaking out against a majority in Congress for YOUR supposed party and vowing to assist the opponent party in blocking legislation.

Joe Lieberman is NOT important as a person or as a political mind. He continues to hold a fairly powerful Senate Chair, but he IS important for what he represents. That is the inability of the Democrats to deal effectively with traitors within their midst. What disincentive is there now for any other person who wants to follow traitor Joe's path?

[Junkdrawer]

22. Lieberman steers security projects...Israel's economy depends on security projects...

http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2007/06/laboratory-fortressed-world

Know many Democrats (or Republicans for that matter) who will to stand up against Israeli interests?

Didn't think so...

[question everything]

25. This really should be addressed to the CT DUers

Before he appeared in the limelight as Al Gore running mate, he was known as a pretty much right of center of the Democratic Party. As a matter of fact, I think that one reason why Gore chose him was his public scolding of Bill Clinton during the Monica affair.

He has not changed but all of a sudden he is at a different spot. This is why the citizens of CT voted for him instead of the other Democrat (Lamont?)

[onenote]

26. a good question. Homeland Security isn't the plum position some think it is

If you really think the Homeland Security/Governmental Affairs Committee is such a hot shit position, maybe you can explain why it was that the repubs gave the chairmanship of that committee to Susan Collins, who was not exactly one of their most loyal, A-list players?

[applegrove]

28. He's not important. Just ignore him.