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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:01 PM
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It looks bad for the John and Elizabeth Edwards marriage.
I read in this week's issue of "The Week" that they are separated. She is not wearing her ring and he has moved out.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10302008/gossip/pagesix/missing_ring_135921.htm

He was my Senator for a little while, and I have met him a couple of times.
I was once honored to get a spot in a small room at the YWCA where she came to give a talk on health care and took questions when John Edwards ran with Senator Kerry.
I have worshiped the ground she walks on since.

I'm so sad. And aghast at what he allowed to happen.



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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:02 PM
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1. "cancer-stricken mother of two "
yeah, that's real reliable reporting .... :eyes:
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:07 PM
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7. I noticed that, too. And the quality of the publication does leave one wondering.
My hunch says it is true. Too many references on google.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:27 PM
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13. What's not factual about that statement? I guess you're one of the Edwards apologists?
Edwards betrayed the public trust and was sociopathic enough to cheat on his terminally ill wife.

J
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:30 PM
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15. There are three living children. There is Kate, in college and the little ones.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:49 PM
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19. He still has THREE kids.
Hello?



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:02 PM
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2. I don't blame her one iota. :(
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:03 PM
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3. sad, very sad.
Elizabeth is such a good woman, the whole thing disappoints me, I supported this man. sad.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:03 PM
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4. he is just another cancer, she doesn't need to be fighting 2 cancers at one time nt
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:05 PM
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5. I feel sorry for
Elizabeth and the children. I was a strong supporter of Edwards, and it was really shocking to find out what he did, an that he was still running for the nomination knowing that it would have been a disaster if he got the nomination, especially after denying it when it first came out. I lost a lot of respect for him!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:47 PM
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18. My sentiments - exactly...
it isn't just the affair - it is just that he knew his wife was termanilly ill - and chose to enter another national election (which invites HUGE media scrutiny - esp if one is a democrat) and *knew* that there was a very good chance that the news of his affair would but thrust into the limelight. And "went for it" per running for the nomination irregardless of Elizabeth's health and how the inevitable uncovering of his infideltity would effect her. It is even grosser when one recalls the very public "decision" of whether or not to run for president in light of the her diagnosis of the cancer now being terminal.

I was a big Edwards fan. When Gore didn't enter the race Edwards was my initial (and enthusiastic) choice.

His choice to run again, knowing that this info would likely come out and cause emotional harm (and thus physical harm when one is already ill) turned my sentiments against lauding him as a public figure worthy of support.

I know that personal lives can be messy. I get that and don't necessarily judge that behavior. If he had not chosen to run again and put that information into likely uncovering and circulation of his infidelity, I would be more forgiing. However he decided to run again - and put the likely humiliation of his terminally ill wife on the table. That, imo, is ugly beyond words.

Had he stayed out of the primaries and almost daring the tabloids to expose his infidelity, than I would not cast judgement - because life is messy. But after the Gary Hart embarassment he should have expected the story coming out - and he chose to go that path, regardless of the effect on his terminally ill wife.

I have lost all respect for (frmr) Sen Edwards.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:06 PM
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6. It's their business. n/t
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:09 PM
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8. Yes, it is their business now. But once it was very much ours.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:13 PM
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11. It's not then. It's now
And right now, it's nobody's concern.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:28 PM
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14. A valid point. Perception varies. The impeccable High Road says
that we would not want to know this outcome, and that I should not have posted it.

Yet, we invested a lot. I remember this board when 4 out of 5 most high powered threads on the Home page were in support of Edwards, giving time, energy, love and money while he was endangering his chances to pay us back because if found out he could never make good on his promises.

And there is so much love of and respect for Elizabeth who even posted on DU a number of times.
I don't know what is right and wrong in such a strange circumstance.


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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:10 PM
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9. Can't blame her one bit for doing this.
Her husband is a horrible person. :puke:
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:12 PM
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10. no he's not a horrible person. He made a horrible choice in having an affair.
Edited on Tue Nov-18-08 10:13 PM by Danieljay
He's done a lot of good on the planet. oh the humanity of it all.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:31 PM
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16. While he's done good, he's also hurt the woman who was at a very
vulnerable point in her life and needed him the most. Any time is bad timing, but in this particular case IMO, it makes him a horrible person.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:58 PM
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20. I agree...he's not a horrible person
I think he should just continue to be an advocate for poverty and he will eventually redeem himself. It hasn't been a long time since we've found out so people are still disappointed and angry with him. This story is just gossip. Personally, if it was me, I would leave him but I'm sure that's easier to say that when it's not your life. I don't get why people who have so much going for them, like Bill Clinton and John Edwards, ruin it for an affair. I really admire Elizabeth and wish her well in whatever she decides to do.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:16 PM
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12. I just hope that she gets the house.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 10:33 PM
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17. Gossip has him living at another house they own.
I believe it's in the same state.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:11 PM
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21. Yup, fuck him. I hope she gets the house too. It's a beauty.
He can go on to do whatever he can to salvage his professional reputation and she can find some peace in whatever time she has remaining to her. If he's decent at all, he's letting her and the kids have full run of the family home and doing WHATEVER Elizabeth needs to ensure peace and harmony.

He acted abominably. I'm sure the last thing she wants or needs is the emotional turmoil associated with trying to rescue him/their relationship/his professional career etc. He just needs to stay away and let her get on with her life.

I can guarantee you that his presence is not comforting right now, it's a cause of major stress, and since there isn't going to be any "happily ever after" for her since her time on earth is pretty limited, I'd go for maximum quality time with my kids without the stresses of trying to repair my shredded marriage or maintain some semblance of facade of normalcy. The wife of a cheating spouse faces enormous - insurmountable? - obstacles in repairing the trust damage in a relationship that's got oodles of time to work out the trauma. Elizabeth doesn't have that luxury.

Kick him to the curb and get to the spa immediately. Then home for a relaxing dinner with the kids, homework and fun stuff together with the people who matter the most. A glass of wine and a good book by the fire....For Elizabeth, for now, she better prioritize HER and her relationship with her kids. John better get the fuck out until SHE wants or needs him. He has lost the opportunity to be a part of her life right now until she decides he's back, if ever.
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