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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:11 AM
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It's going to be a GREAT Christmas at my family's place this year!
So I get into this heated discussion with my sister, (a really misguided republican) on face-book, when all of the sudden, her mother-in-law has a plethora of input! My comments are in bold for narrative clarification. I really can't stand these people, my sister's in-laws, and they know it. I will not pull punches with either of them ever again. We've accomplished far too much with this Obama victory to be pacifist in the face of idiocy.

So the dialog begins...

Sister
MRC Action 6:06pm
Source: www.mrcaction.org
Media Research Center (MRC) is a conservative media watchdog group dedicated to bringing political balance to the news and entertainment media.
Help me fight the so called "fairness" doctrine!
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Sister's MIL at 6:36pm November 17
You GO girl!

Envirobatat 7:01pm November 17
Fight the fairness doctrine! Sean Hannity 24/7! HooRay!!!

Sister at 8:04pm November 17
Alex are you being sincere? Last I talked face to face with you I wasn't to sure you leaned toward the conservative "dark" side, as mother would put it.

Envirobatat 8:10pm November 17
No, I'm not. All I see is that Nazi Sean Hannity, or blowhard Bill O'Liar, or hear Rush Limpball on the radio. Seeing as the RW has basically taken over and controlled the media in this country, a little fairness might not be a bad thing. Take a good look a Germany circa 1936, you'll understand. The MRC is a front for fascist propaganda.

Sister at 8:23pm November 17
See there now brother, your true colors appear. And so what was ABC, MSNBC, CNN doing during the campaign? I didn't see any "fairness" during their coverage on television. Besides you are a big boy, if you don't like it, turn it off! Next you'll be telling me it was our own government that blew up the Trade Centers on 9/11.

Envirobat at 10:08pm November 17
Well, for once those three networks were doing their jobs by not blindly worshiping those frauds running on the republican ticket, and reporting the news for once. When all you can run on is a lousy smear campaign with 0 plans for the future, you lose elections. And no, it wasn't the government that blew up the Trade Center, (real original RW talking point), but it was the Bush administration that allowed it to happen.

You're too smart for this crap Beck... You can thank a Democrat for unemployment benefits, and social security. If the republicans had their way, we'd all be living on the street. My sister was recently unemployed, and managed to keep her house and kids fed until she found another job.

Sister's MIL at 11:50pm November 17
Hey Beck, here's some facts for you. (Oh boy! Facts!) Under the first amendment to the constitution, you, as an American citizen, have the right to your own opinion and the freedom to express that opinion without being referred to as "stupid".
Here's some additional facts that you might find interesting. The Obamas' made 4.2 million dollars in 2007 and the Clintons' made 20,400,000.00 in 2007. That should keep them from living in the street, huh? In fact, over the past 8 years, under a republican administration, Bill and Hillary Clinton made over 130 million dollars. Neato! Relevance?
I would never have believed America would elect a man to president with known ties to a socialist party but no known citizenship to the United States.(I nearly punched the screen with the stupidity of that last one...) I guess the Constitution doesn't have the meaning its originators intended.
Why is everything about partisanship anyway? Our ancesters, (she misspells ancestors here) ,came here for religious freedom not political partisan. Ummmm, WTF does that even mean?

Envirobat at 9:03am November 18
Interesting how now we are quick to site that our forefathers came here for religious freedom, when the republicans were so afraid of that "Scary Muslim" Obama. I'll also remind you that it was a republican administration that has done more damage to the Constitution in the past eight years than any administration in history. All in the name of "Fear and Terror". I realize it's difficult for some to get beyond the 50's McCarthyism concepts that have been driven into their heads since childhood.

Barack is NOT a socialist. He just doesn't think it's fair for people who are struggling financially to pay for the lifestyles of the wealthy. Talk to me after tax season, when you've gotten a bigger refund than you've seen the past eight years. Let me know how that big bad "Socialism" thing is screwing you.

p.s. Not once did I see the word "Stupid" in anything I've written. Spoken like a true republican though, invent words where they don't exist to change the message.

Envirobat at 9:10am November 18
Here's some other "facts" for you while I've got your attention:
Under the first amendment to the constitution, you, as an American citizen, have the right to your own opinion and the freedom to express that opinion without being referred to as "anit-American","Traitor", "Socialist","Fag", "Nigger-lover". All words that were said to me as a knocked on doors while campaigning for;

P R E S I D E N T
B A R A C K
O B A M A

You're my sister Beck, an I will always love you, but this is a subject we should probably leave alone, and agree to disagree...

Sister's vapid MIL at 10:16am November 18
Beck, It appears that in sharing my opinion with you I have angered your brother. Then I must apologize, that was not my intention. I beleve (again, spell check does wonders) what you are trying to say is that fairness should be evenly spread across the board. The American people have the right to fairly and accurately hear both sides of an issue in order to make an educated decision. (Sure thing lady. Like FOX News hasn't been jamming RW propaganda down the throats of sheep, unchecked since it's inception? Like Clear Channel hasn't been buying up every independent radio station that carries Air America since the birth of Air America. How's that fairness working out for ya?) No decision should be slanted by partisanship. If I have misunderstood your intention that was my mistake.
May I also say that your brother obviously does not know me. If he did he would know that I am not a republican nor am I a democrat and I have voted both ways in elections.(Mrs. Holier-than-thou voted for the Bush-monkey TWICE, and the McCain monkey this last one. Stinks like a republican to me...) Believing in God and appreciating my opportunity to know Him personally and my freedom to worship Him whole-heartedly does not make me a republican, it makes me a Christian. I'm sorry if I have offended your brother but I will not apologize for my faith!

Ummmm, sorry asshat. In my book, your undying faith to the Bush administration the past eight years qualifies you as a stinking republican. Suddenly, it has become convenient to disassociate yourself with the losers, I understand... There's a good little racist.

Sister at 4:21pm November 18
Love you too bro! But just remember this tid bit, ......you just might need a kidney, or maybe part of a liver some day and I'm the closest match you got!

Envirobat at 5:13pm November 18
I would eat them with a fine Chianti... Hahaha.
I'm just edgy lately, no biggie...

A little while later I receive a private message from Sister's MIL
Alex,
I didn't realize this was such a heated topic. I thought I was inserting a little levity (No really, I was laughing my ass off) ,but it seems it wasn't taken that way, I apologize. It was not my intent to anger you. I realize that many people do not see eye to eye on a lot of topics and often it happens in families. You are right when you say it is best to agree to disagree. However, there is one thing I must take issue with. (Uh Oh...) You can disagree with my point of view if you choose but please do not ever make unbased inferences against my parents or the way I was raised. That is a subject of which you have no knowledge and it is highly offensive to me. You could not be further from the truth. Thank you.
Janice

E'Bats Reply...

Janice,
If there are any facts I've taken away from this enlightening dialog with you, they are these:
1) You don't know my father, and as a result have no knowledge regarding inferences made against my own parents.
2) You're quick to call yourself a "Christian", and yet you devotedly supported John McCain in this last election. That simply tells me that you don't know Jesus either. I find it highly offensive that you claim otherwise. How many dead Iraqi civilians now? Women? Children? I guess only God knows huh? I guess it was truly the "Christian" thing to do when you pulled that lever for McCain though, right?

Alex


Can't wait till Christmas dinner! Hey moron, pass the gravy...
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:12 AM
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1. How about some PIE for dessert?
;) :9
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:17 AM
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3. Heheheh, sound goooooood!
:hi:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:16 AM
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2. Dead-on wrong about the first amendment
All the first amendment guarantees you is that the government can't prevent you a priori from expressing your opinion. It doesn't require me to let you speak. It doesn't prevent someone from holding you accountable for your speech (libel, inciting to riot, etc.). And, it most certainly doesn't prevent someone from calling you stupid.

Your rights under the Bill of Rights are all rights you hold against the government.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:18 AM
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5. I know, I know. I call these people "stupid" all the time.
The point was she was trying to insinuate that I was calling my sister stupid. Can't fault her for trying...
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:18 AM
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4. You might want to look into alternative plans?
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:19 AM
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6. Yeah, I know... Hey what are YOU doing for Christmas dinner?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:20 AM
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7. Staying home and cooking. You are welcome!
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:38 AM
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11. I'll bring the Dorito's!
:hi:
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:42 PM
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16. Hey I love doritoes!
But wouldn't you rather have turkey, ham and the other stuff?
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 02:51 PM
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19. Yes please, with some Dorito's!
:9
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:23 AM
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8. I dont associate with pukes, family or otherwise.
I had a sister once, maybe still dont know, maybe she has died I dont know, dont care.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:27 AM
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9. Do fava beans go nicely with MILs?
It sounds like that woman has too much hate and no where to put it.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:41 AM
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12. She's a conniving hand-wringer that hides her bullshit behind her
"Christian faith". I shouldn't let her make me angry, but this Christian hypocrisy really pisses me off. I'm getting to old to walk on egg-shells around fascists.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:33 AM
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10. I finally cut off communication with my SIL over the election. She wouldn't stop sending
BS right wing lies in forwarded e-mails. She's now on my blocked list.

I've known her for over 40 years. She and her husband (my brother) are both rabid Repubs.
At least I don't have to go visit them anymore: two hours around her and I was ready to go HOME!

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:43 AM
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13. Gawd, I did the same thing. My address list is down to bare bones and
I'm so glad I don't have to look at those awful RW smears anymore. Childhood friends, etc. Buh-bye.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:49 AM
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15. Sad thing is, my High-school sweetheart found me on face-book.
I was so in love with her. It's been like 22 years or so. I was shocked to find out she is a repuke. So damn sad... Like she was resurrected from the Pet Cemetery or something.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 11:47 AM
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14. It's exhausting I know...
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:25 PM
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17. It's not worth the effort
It's maddening but no matter what you say you can never change a mind like hers.

It's like :banghead:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:34 PM
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18. The sole fact that your sister's MIL convos on Facebook makes her an idiot. n/t
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 02:52 PM
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20. Hmmm, you may have a point there...
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