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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:24 PM
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The UP Tick Rule. You could only short sell when the share was on a Up Tick.
This rule was done away with in 2007 another nightmare thanks to the Republicans.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptick
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:25 PM
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1. It looks like the GOP planned to crash the economy
Theres just too many coincidences they had a hand in to make it an accident.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:27 PM
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2. The more you do the research , it seems possible. It would have stopped the wild swings.
You wouldn't have had the five percent loss like we had today.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:30 PM
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7. If you believe the uptick rule would have stopped today's
action... you are in extreme denial of the state of the economy. What did today in was weakness in Citi and Goldman. It's becoming clear that the first round of equity injections into those companies was a failure. Paulson admitted as much last week and the data since then has backed it up. There is a real chance of CITI failing, and if it does... Katy bar the door.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:27 PM
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3. The rule was stupid and arbitrary
Why should there be different rules for buying long or selling short?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:28 PM
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4. I think short-selling should be illegal. You shouldn't be able to sell what you don't yet own.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:29 PM
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5. To prevent the world economy from crashing?
To keep millions from becoming destitute homeless and starving?
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:33 PM
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10. The world market indicies are crashing
because of slowing demand in the underlying businesses. Shorts have very little to do with it.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:34 PM
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11. If it weren't for shorts you wouldn't have had the 5 percent over all drop today.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:29 PM
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6. If it controlled the wild drops, how could it be stupid? It was an implement of control for the
Edited on Wed Nov-19-08 04:30 PM by sarcasmo
Market put into place after the first Depression.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 05:18 PM
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15. Because buying long and selling short are two completely unrelated activities?
"buying long" is the basic fundamental element of a stock market.

"selling short" is a side activity that builds nothing and creates nothing. If "selling short" where eliminated altogether, a stock market could thrive just fine w/o it.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:32 PM
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8. Bring it back
IMMEDIATELY
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:32 PM
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9. The only people who would argue for the rule are those who are short selling.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:35 PM
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13. Nope
I believe that making arbitrary rules only serves to distort markets. Distorted markets will reach equilibrium... it will just take longer.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:36 PM
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14. I guess we agree to disagree.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 04:34 PM
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12. The Gamblers love to change the rules of the financial and economic casino; as long..........
as THEY are winning. Heavy Duty Regulation is required on the corrupt criminal corporations, private equity hedge funds and ALL of the wall street gamblers. Time to shutdown the corrupt economic and financial casino."F"'em ALL, THEY have ruined this GD nation!!
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