Hillary as Sec of State - straw [POLL]

[Prophet 451]

Assuming this isn't all a gigantic swerve, it looks like Hillary is going to be offered the Sec of State position in Obama's administration. Obviously, it's Obama's right to appoint whomever he wants but I'm curious how you guys feel about it. Hence, as a quick "State of DU", this poll:

[Jack Sprat]

1. How many U.S. Senators do you know

that would give up their current job to serve as Sec of State? I can't remember any. Maybe she's just taking her time to refuse the job so as not to act ungrateful for it being offered.

[Eugene]

2. Other: Not my first choice but acceptable. nt

[Prophet 451]

4. That's a reasonable position

Personally, I'd prefer John Kerry at State and Hillary at Health (I thought her healthcare plan was superior to Obama's).

[TexasObserver]

3. Aye

[Breeze54]

5. She voted for war and she got it... so? Why not put her in HHS?

Then maybe we'll GET IT!! Health Insurance, that is. ;)

Universal Health Care was her 'thing' for years, so
it boggles one's mind, that she wouldn't be on that

like... well, you know! ;)

[comtec]

6. I'm greatful that senator Kennedy gave her a graceful exit strategy

if she works with him NO ONE will consider it a snub to Obama.

There are advantages as having her as SoS.... but I REALLY would rather have THAT pit bull working for MS in the Senate, esp on the health care issue.... and I sincerely mean that in the BEST possible light!!!

She IS, once the latches on she doesn't let go! I WANT that in a democratic senator, they've been too fucking spineless for too long, i hope she'll FORCE the spine back into our party! And the best place for that is where she is now!

I think it was very gracious (and smart) to offer SoS to Hilary, but I think while she'd be great, she should turn him down... gently... I also think Lieberman should be offered ambassador to Israel... one he can go home, and two.... NO MORE LIEBERMAN

[Captain Hilts]

7. And Obama kept voting to fund it. nt

[shadowknows69]

8. Put the primaries away he was 1 of 100 Senators but he knew well enough

It should never have been started. Still bitter much?

[Breeze54]

9. VERY!!!!! Bitter?! Fucking enraged!!!!

HRC as SOS? :wtf:

:banghead:

[shadowknows69]

10. I'm with you Breeze

There's no path to it being a good choice, and this bullshit political theater coming out that "she's not sure" should disqualify her out of hand. This isn't about the Clintons fucking brand name anymore. We have work to do.

[Captain Hilts]

11. Just statin' the facts. nt

[shadowknows69]

12. Should I call the wahmbulance for you or do you have it on speed dial by now?

[Occam Bandage]

35. She was 1 of 100 Senators, too. nt

[singingbiscuit]

16. Agreed on HHS

and good on Ted Kennedy too ... excellent move.

[dccrossman]

13. She should stay in the Senate

She'll have more independence and the chance to force more of an impact on Domestic policy, which I think is a greater strength for her than foreign policy, but hey, I like Bill Richardson... =)

SoS is not a stepping stone to the POTUS. Besides which, I'd be amazed if lasts more than 4 years. Obama imported his "experience" with Biden and filled a perceived gap. In 4 years, he'll get a younger VP, that will be more likely to succeed in 2016. HRC is great, and I hate to be age-biased, but I really do think that she will not win the primary in 2016, if she chooses to run. The Democratic Party has crossed a generational line.


These opinions are mine alone and probably filled with hypocrisy, since I'm no smarter than you are. =)

[demokatgurrl]

14. She should stay in the Senate

Obama can do without the drama she, and her husband, will bring.

[Lilith Velkor]

15. This is all a gigantic swerve

Maybe the administration figured that if they stage - for the third fucking time - another "saving us from teh evil Clintoris" psychodrama, the fanbase would be placated and not grumble too much about Lieberman, Paulson, etc.

No, I have no proof of this, but since unsubstantiated conspiracy theorizing is all the rage these days, I figured I'd present an alternative viewpoint.

[Name removed]

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[MyNameGoesHere]

18. OTHER: Notify Secret Service that members of DU support imprisoning a

US Senator.

[Qibing Zero]

23. Don't forget to mention we support imprisoning the President, too. nt

[SoCalDem]

19. Zogby, is that you??

poll is "rigged" for "aye"..
:rofl:

[Prophet 451]

21. There is no Zogby

There is only Zuul!

(I've never got the hang of constructing "neutral" polls anyway)

[Blue_In_AK]

20. I'm fine with her wherever she wants to be.

[Bucky]

22. Gotta trust Obama on this one. I'm sure he has his reasons

He can't think it's a cost-free choice. He would only do this if he had a reason to think this will get his agenda met effectively. She wouldn't be my choice, but she is a problem solver and she is a party elder by any reasonable standard. This is more than just "better inside the tent pissing out." She was a loyal supporter after she dropped out of the race. And she has buckets of gravitas.

She's not a bad choice. And it will certainly help keep the rabid Right frothing themselves into idiocy every few weeks or so. She must be worth the drama for some reason. I still trust my new president.

[Spectral Music]

24. I agree with you Bucky

And the rest of you naysayers need to trust Obama. He knows what he is doing.

[Swamp Rat]

25. Oh my God! In twenty-four hours, I'll be married to a walrus!

Baldrick: But, My Lord, you can't just lock her out, you know.



:D

[Bucky]

26. Apparently you didn't read the fine print in Prop 8

Walruses are out, too. And damn the Republicans for trying to fuse the two issues in the public mind.

[Prophet 451]

28. This is just me and Swampy

Every time we end up on the same thread, we start quoting Blackadder to each other.

[Swamp Rat]

30. Prop 8 is the the ugliest, most bigoted piece of shit since Plessy v. Ferguson

No need to know what's in the fine print.

[Prophet 451]

27. "But, I'll die in there"

Edmund: "We'll give you a hero's funeral. Say you died in combat with an enemy vessel"

[Swamp Rat]

31. Infanta... Infanta...

Infanta: Edmundo? Edmundo, amor mio!

Don: Oh Edmund, my love!

:D

[Prophet 451]

33. "Again, please!" n/t

[Beacool]

34. I used to love watching that show.

The British do such great smart comedy. Loved also Monty Python and Fawlty Towers.

:7

[Phred42]

29. Look at the leaky mess just the vetting process has been.

in fact - such a leaky mess this one should have been double bagged :rofl:

That should be your clue as to what it would be like with her and wild bill anywhere near this.

They need to go away.

[unkachuck]

32. aye....

....although there could be legacy-costs involved....few would deny she isn't qualified....but henry-the-k loves her, that makes me nervous....it's hers if she wants it....

....the best I can say is, we could do worse....

[emilyg]

36. Aye