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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:33 AM
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Every day I get more convinced -- Corporate Globalization sucks
Call me an old-fashioned Luddite, an isolationist, whatever....But the worse this "global economic meltdown" gets, the more I trust my long-held instinctual mistrust of the whole "Glbalization" scam.

Just now the news reported that the Citi Bank Oligarchs are going to one of their prime investors for help -- a rich Sheik. GE, meanwhile, is looking to its' Asian investors for an infusion.

We are sellinbg the US economy lock, stock and barrell. And we have built an economic architecture that is so complex and interrelated that it may be getting beyond any ability to determine out own destiny.

Nations are being replaced by an International Pool of global capital that has no loyalties, no accountability and no philosophy beyond generating more capital for itself.

IMO we need to get back to basics in the economy.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:40 AM
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1. Have you ever read "Neuromancer" by William Gibson?
I believe it is a peek into our future. My husband, who is not into sci fi much, thinks ,it is one of the best books ever written.


from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer

snip...

Neuromancer is a 1984 novel by William Gibson, notable for being the most famous early cyberpunk novel and winner of the science-fiction "triple crown"—the Nebula Award, the Philip K. Dick Award, and the Hugo Award.<1> It was Gibson's first novel and the beginning of the Sprawl trilogy. The novel tells the story of a washed-up computer hacker hired by a mysterious employer to work on the ultimate hack. Gibson explores artificial intelligence, virtual reality, genetic engineering, and multinational corporations overpowering the traditional nation-state long before these ideas entered popular culture. The concept of cyberspace makes its first appearance, with Gibson inventing the word to describe "a consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions."
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:50 AM
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2. "You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples."
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechnetwork4.html

"You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels."

Thousands of years in the making, generations of momentum. You're not going to stop the machine.

The reason corporations have so much global power is that they are being regulated by regional governments. The only way to fix that(since we won't voluntarily do the opposite of globalization), is to globalize government. That will just lead to greater globalization of all aspects of life, and increase "the economic architecture that is so complex and interrelated that it may be getting beyond any ability to determine out own destiny."
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:52 AM
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3. ...
:applause:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:16 AM
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4. That speech has stuck in my mind all these years -- But there's another one I remember
"The fault Dear Brutus" lies not in our stars but within ourselves."

In other words, we only accept this bullshit because we choose to.

Nothing manmade is inevitable, if we choose to exercise our collective willpower and reverse the tide of human institutions.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:27 AM
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5. and completely unsustainable
screwing the future, as I call it.
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