Do You Support The United Auto Workers?

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[glowing]

1. Actually, only one of my cars is.

[rucky]

2. I don't know.

I have a Caravan and a Prius.

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4. If it is union made , it has a Union Label. n/t

[rucky]

9. I'll get back to you on that one.

it's snowing.

[bbinacan]

3. Specifically support

on what issue?

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7. Do you buy Union Made cars? n/t

[bbinacan]

11. I've never owned a US made car.

Because of my work, I need to get a vehicle that can go off road. Prior to the spike in gas and the recent economy, I was looking hard at a Chevy Tahoe. I'm now thinking Toyota FJ Cruiser.

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25. Thank you for your non support.

:sarcasm:

[Taverner]

5. Yes - they are the only ones I support at this time

They bent over BACKWARDS since the 80's to keep big auto alive, because if they didn't they wouldn't have jobs

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. As a former member, yes.

[stray cat]

8. If it costs me nothing - absolutely. If it costs me my salary not so much

If it means I have to pay 15000 for a non-reliable car when I can get a car that has a better track record elsewhere - no. Once I put the money into car payments I can't afford to make repairs until after the car is paid off.

[NMDemDist2]

10. I own two Union Made GM cars

and am waiting for the Volt (or it's equivalent) to buy another car

my co-worker put in 30 years at GM and he's a great guy

I support organized labor (with all their many flaws)

[IndianaJones]

12. all GM in this household. nt.

[yodoobo]

13. What does that mean exactly?

Sure I support them. I mean, why not?

But what does that mean?

Just means I give them a "rah rah" on a message board.

Some people don't support them. They give them a "boo" on other message boards.


My support though, my best support was how I voted on november 4th.

Other than that, their fate is pretty much out of my hands.

(ok yea I know I'm thinking 2 much here)

RAH RAH UAW!

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19. Lip service is not support. n/t

[Lumpsum]

14. Why aren't the UAW on strike?

It's their bosses' fault that they're in the mess they are in..

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18. You are reading too much into the question. n/t

[ogneopasno]

15. I like the choices you give. Either you support them, or you don't. The only way to support union

workers is to buy their products and services.

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23. There are other ways to support a union.

You can contribute to their strike fund. Or you can honor their picket lines.

But for those who don't buy union, Fuck you very much.

[ogneopasno]

33. True, true. I preferred the huge sweeping statement. But you are absolutely right.

Up to and including the "fuck you very much." Talk is cheap.

[Thickasabrick]

16. All our company cars are Fords and we get new ones every 3

years.

[guitar man]

17. Yes

Even though I always buy used, I still always buy American. I have a 1995 Lincoln Mark VIII, FANTASTIC car, 206k miles and it runs like new. Also a plain jane '03 Dodge Ram 1500 pickup, V6, 5 speed stick, 76k miles, no complaints. Also, a 1999 Harley Davidson Sportster, best bike I have ever owned. Union labels all around. I come from a union family and wouldn't have it any other way. :patriot:

[madokie]

20. Thanks to kansas city union hands my '98 f150 hasn't given me a moments worry

In the construction world around here if someone wants something builts right they go union every time. Seems to me like anyway

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22. I'm gonna repeat that:

if someone wants something built right they go union every time

[gollygee]

21. We have two cars. One was and one wasn't.

So I guess 50%

[PVnRT]

29. To the OP, that makes you a corporatist union-hating whore, I'm sure

The stoopid is strong in GD today.

[gollygee]

32. Yeah well I choose where my money goes

We wanted a minivan, and I asked friends how they liked their minivans. The only people who were happy were those who had Siennas and Odysseys. Oh well. We do prefer American things, and union thing for that matter, but that isn't the only issue we weigh. Our van was made in the US but Toyota isn't a union shop.

We'll be in the market for a truck in the spring and I am 100% sure my husband will want a Chevy.

Our previous trucks have been Chevys and all of our previous cars have been Fords.

But anyway, it's a lot of money and I have to get something I'm likely to be happy with.

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35. I'm glad you don't speak for me.

And I'm sorry you pretend to speak for me.

STFU

[PVnRT]

37. Oooohhhh, big man

You take your little push-poll garbage and STFU yourself.

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38. I suspect that you are just bitter because you don't have a Union

to protect your rights.

ORGANIZE!

[PVnRT]

45. Could you maybe try to make some sense?

You posted a poll that is obvious flamebait, and you get pissy when someone calls you on it? Deal with it.

And, no, I'm bitter because snide little pissants like you are having an orgy right now deciding who is and who is not "worthy" of being a "real American." I certainly hope everything you own is 100% American labor union made.

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46. You're certainly bitter about something.

I just don't care what that something is.

[Ikonoklast]

24. That's a tough one for me

When we went on strike, a lot of UAW workers crossed our picket lines (UFCW) to shop, and had no problem doing so. Some even stopped and told us we were overpaid to work retail food; we should take less in pay because food prices were too high, and, no, I am not making this up.

Lots of both Ford and Chevy plant workers in my town.

My father and mother are both Ford white-collar retirees. My brother worked as an attorney at Ford; my uncle was a Ford white-collar retiree; my cousin was, too.

I have friends that currently work at Ford, and some that are already retired from there.

I could tell you stories about how some of them bragged about sleeping most of their shift because there wasn't anything for them to do (millwrights).

I could tell you of electricians that mostly did nothing but change light bulbs, because of antiquated work rules.

I know of one skilled tradesman, a family friend whose father was also a Ford white-collar retiree, that used to spend most of his days riding his Harley; the only time he came back into the plant was when his foreman would page him when there was work to do.

I asked him if he felt bad about that, and his answer was, hey, it's their rules, I'm just playing the game.
This guy makes over 100K a year. He is a die repairman.

Please don't flame me on this, these are first-person accounts of people I know.

My father never made more than 35K a year as a salaried clerk in transportation at Ford. He always said that if he knew that the blue-collar guys would have rocketed past him in pay, he would have quit the office and joined the union.

I support Labor as the only alternative against management that would otherwise run roughshod over employees, but, some things need to change.

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27. If you think things need to change,

join the Union and vote for change. Unions are democratic organizations they reflect the votes of the union members.

[Ikonoklast]

31. I was a shop steward.

I walked picket lines. I was on contract committees. I tried to organize non-union shops.

Twenty-four years, AMC&BW 427, UFCW 880. I was one of the guys people voted for.

We didn't have the luxury of people getting paid for little or no work.

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34. Thank you for your efforts

People like you make all the difference.!!!!!

[Pithlet]

51. My dad was a millwright for GM

Those were exactly it. Stories. I can tell you for certain that he didn't just sit on his ass and get paid for nothing for all those years he worked. It's easy to just tell stories about things that you've heard from other people. I can also tell you that we never crossed a picket line for anyone, no matter what they did. I remember when the Al Kessel busted the unions at all the Krogers he took over. We never shopped at a single one after that. Ever. Now, I'm not going to flame you, because you did acknowledge that they were just accounts. Just remember that's all they were.

[Pithlet]

52. replited to wrong post.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

56. There's Truth To His Stories.

Just as there's truth in yours about your father.

There is plenty of waste in the UAW structure and plenty of inefficient processes that need correcting; such as no one being allowed to change a lightbulb other than the specific electrician etc. Those aren't stories, they are reality. Those types of things absolutely need to be addressed going forward if GM is to survive. Too much 'specialization'.

[PVnRT]

26. Ain't nothing like flame bait

[SmileyRose]

28. We have 2 Fords, one is UAW the other is Mexican (non union)

the Mexican one was an inherited freebee from my Uncle, who lives with us. When it croaks someday, it will be replaced with a UAW car (if they still exist)

[arthritisR_US]

30. Hell yes and I also support the Airline Union and any others. n/t

[Octafish]

36. Yes, Proudly.

UAW and the American auto industry helped build the middle class.

What has Walmart done for the economy?

America's, I mean.

Proud to K&R, too.

[Raksha]

39. I voted "Yes" even though I don't own a car.

But I support unions on general principles.

Edited to add that I just noticed there was an option for "I don't own a car." Not thinking too straight at the moment, I guess.

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40. We all do what we can n/t

[W_HAMILTON]

41. Well, I don't think my car was made by union members...

...but fuck the CEOs and higher ups, of course I support the unions. Why do people bitch and moan when unions use their power to earn wages and benefits, but no one is picketing about the insane CEO payment and compensation? Fuck those higher-ups. If their payment package can be justified, even when their decisions run their companies into the ground, then you certainly can justify the wages and benefits for union workers, who simply make the cars.

[unkachuck]

42. kick and Yes!....n/t

[louis c]

43. 2 Mecurys

Sable and Marina. bought both of them new. The Sable is 6 years old with no trouble and the Marina is 3 with no trouble.

God Bless the American workers.

[varelse]

44. I don't drive, and have never owned a car.

The three cars I helped buy (my sister does drive) were all used. I'm fairly certain that two of the three, at least, were not made in the USA. We've never even considered buying a new car, and probably never will. Does this mean we don't support the UAW?

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47. Members of the United Auto Workers would appreciate it

If you would buy Union.

It just make sense that we should all support each other.

[varelse]

49. "Buy union" meaning a union-made used car?

or a new car "union-made" car that we can't afford? Is there some way in which buying a used vehicle that was "union-made" as opposed to buying a used one that is in good condition (ie not leaking tranny fluid or burning oil, etc) is supporting the union? I'm not sure I understand...

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50. When you demand a Union made car (new or used)

You support Union workers by making their products more valuable i.e. more "in demand".

When you buy cars made by non-Union workers, you stick it too your Union brothers and sisters.

Please buy Union Made Products where ever possible.

[tnlefty]

48. I support union workers, I married one!

As far as cars are concerned, as much as I can. We own 2 Saturns, but some of the parts may have been made somewhere else, then assembled here. :hi:

[Gold Metal Flake]

53. Absofuckinglutely.

[bluecollarcharlie]

54. Damn right i do!!!!

And i have the card to prove it! Local 372 Trenton Michigan

[TexasObserver]

55. Damn right!