Rec this puppy if you think Bush should face trial in America for WAR CRIMES

[derby378]

Screw the Hague. I'm of the mindset that we need to show the world we're capable of dealing with our own megalomaniacal wannabe dictator who seeks to bankrupt our blood and treasure for his own gain.

I'm mad. I'm ornery. And I feel I have a right to be so. I will not sit back and applaud The Great American Swindle. I want George Walker Bush to face a jury of his peers and a complete list of charges against him amassed over the past eight years.

And, if convicted, he must be eligible for the maximum penalty. If that means life imprisonment, so be it. Maybe Alaska. Normally, I'd say Florence ADX, but he might like the temeprature too much.

So recommend this thread if you think we need to TCB and haul Bush before the judge ourselves.

[meegbear]

1. Do we have to rec it?

Can't we just beleive Bush should face trial and leave it at that?

[derby378]

4. Well...

I know a lot of people would like to see the Hague take over on this one. I just think it's time for us to step up.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

38. I would rather our dem leaders step up to the plate...but being we've been waiting so long...

...I'd like to see the Hague take over.

[TheEuclideanOne]

77. "Am I the only one who thinks "Rec this thread ..." threads are stupid?"

Yeah, they may be stupid, but it is probably more therapeutic than anything.

Maybe you can start a thread on:

Recommend this if you think that "Threads for Recommending things are stupid" :rofl:

[wildbilln864]

2. ttgpwe! nt

[leftstreet]

3. K&R You forgot to add the puppy

[MiniMe]

6. I was going to give you one...

My new foster. But yours are much cuter. :hi:

[derby378]

9. Awwwww

What a sweetheart! :loveya:

[leftstreet]

13. Awwwww +1

What a cutie!

[TahitiNut]

45. Awwww...

He's got his ball. He wants to play. He's so sweeet. (Got more than a little Lab in him.)

[goforit]

78. Tooooo cute!!!

[MiniMe]

80. And very sweet. Picked her up today and she is a doll.

She will be 5 months in a few days.

[Bette Noir]

20. Puppies!

Are they hypoallergenic?

[NorCalDem]

5. Who wouldn't want Bush to stand trial?

Other than ignorant a$$, racist, mouth breathing Freeper types. ANyone with a BRAIN knows Bush and Cheney are war criminals.

K&R'd!

[QueenOfCalifornia]

7. Rec #25

I think he should be tried for war crimes in every country he has fucked up. Starting here and then onto Iraq and Afghanistan - I do not take this shit lightly. Fuck him - he is a treasonous fuctard. I loath him and his kind.

[Donnachaidh]

29. we'll start it here and make sure he ends up in IRAQ

It would be ironic if he saw the same fate as Saddam.

[MrMickeysMom]

57. Awh Gilligan...

The Skipper and I agree with you.

Fuck the fucking fucker!
:fistbump:

[noiretextatique]

8. i'll gladly five you the 26th rec eom

[threadkillaz]

10. And every member of Congress who voted for it.

Enabling war crimes is a war crime.

[Cleita]

11. That's a nice sentiment but if we were able and willing to deal with our

own, it should have happened six years ago after he lead us into a phony war. There is no desire to do this in America by those who actually can do it, Congress and the Justice Department, so I say off to the Hague with all of them.

[NJmaverick]

12. In better times this would be a higher priority

unfortunately these are not better times and our nation has far more urgent and important matters to attend to.

[derby378]

15. "We choose to go to the moon, not because it is easy, but because it is hard"

Prosecuting Bush may not be the easy thing to do, but it is the right thing to do.

Don't lose your nerve. He's nothing but a glorified frat boy. We can take him.

[orleans]

37. lol -- can i quote you?

"Don't lose your nerve. He's nothing but a glorified frat boy. We can take him."

[derby378]

54. Sure, why not?

Knock yourself out. :hi:

[rhett o rick]

16. Disagree. There is nothing more important than the reestablishment of our Constitution

and the rule of law. If we don't then these tough times we are in will only get tougher as the criminals continue their looting and destruction.

[FailureToCommunicate]

43. Tough times is EXACTLY when to uphold the law. Besides, we

can do several things at once.
And the Hague will be doing the war crimes stuff.
After we've IMPEACHED the murdering little Frat King and his frat boys

[rhett o rick]

63. Don't we have to impeach before he pardons everyone? nm

[JackRiddler]

17. Same excuse was used in 1993...

See you in 2020 with President Jeb or Ellis, I guess.

[whosinpower]

22. Since when does justice wait for "good times?"

Iraq convicted Saddam Hussein while it was still occupied. Can't say they waited until good times - they did what they had to do in order to move forward.

In order to move your country forward - you must hold to account those who have illegally waged war on a soverign nation. In order to regain some semblance of moral authority - you must acknowledge the wrongs committed, for yourself, for you children, for your country, for your veterans and for the entire globe.

And guess what - even in these challenging times, Barack Obama CAN walk and chew gum at the same time. He is NOT George Bush.

Nothing is more important than this. Your very future depends on it.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

51. in better times

what in the hell does that mean? What kind of times come to a country under a dictator war criminal? Better times.....

Eight years of war, thousands of soldiers dead, millions of Iraqi's dead, The Constitution almost destroyed, Phone calls, emails, internet activity, books bought, ALL snooped on, new FBI files on millions of citizens that may be personally costly for someone in the future, or their childrens future, economy in tatters, reputation in the world community as a nation that tortures and disappears human beings, and policy's neither Americans or Allies are comfortable with.

Are these the more urgent and important matter you speak of?

Which of these points are not a direct result of Bush, and which of these points are not important enough to hold Bush accountable for?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

61. thank you, I just said the same on another thread.

But if the Hague could take charge of giving them ALL what they deserve---- yeah, boiiiii!!

[mimitabby]

14. definitely!

[flashsmith]

18. Should face war crime trials in countries he waged war

That would be fairest and most satisfying. I hope Obama denies the Bush administration and all the senators and congressman who supported him diplomatic passports and fast tracks any extradition requests.

[Politicalboi]

19. Let's save time and money

Give him a trial in Iraq. Just like Saddam. He's leaving the country this or next week. Crossing my fingers. LOL! He's a lame duck anyway so who's going to miss him? The United States has gone through hell with GWB but not like the hell Iraq has gone through. Let them decide the decider's fate. He's a war President ya know. I'm sure James Baker can find a jury of Bush's peers in Iraq. LOL!

[whosinpower]

21. Maximum penalty?

Methinks he deserves the precise exact justice that Saddam Hussien enjoyed.

The gallows.

[cayanne]

23. kick

:kick:

[ima_sinnic]

24. just because we want it doesn't mean it's going to happen

the OP could have 1,000+ recs, but where is the mechanism to make it happen?

[Whoa_Nelly]

25. K&R!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

26. Done!

Will the defendants please sit your lyin' asses down.

[lunatica]

27. kick

[earth mom]

28. K & R! nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

30. Where's the puppy?

I was disappointed. No rec for you!

[MiniMe]

31. Posts #3 & 6

:hi:

[Cronus Protagonist]

32. Awwwww... the puppy hands one is AWESOME

I rec'd it now. :P

[L0oniX]

33. Bush should be forced to watch his daughters marry Democrats.

:evilgrin:

[Mr Hedley Bowes]

34. The sooner the better, as in: TOMORROW. n/t

[Douglas Carpenter]

35. 'SHOULD" definitely! But it there is NO way in hell it will EVER, EVER, EVER happen!

There may be investigations that could even conceivably conclude with highly censorious statements and brutally worded criticisms. That is well with in the range of plausibility -although by no means all that likely.

I am sorry to say this. But ANYONE WHO THINKS FOR ONE SINGLE SECOND THAT GEORGE W. BUSH IS GOING TO FACE TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES IS LIVING IN A CHILDISH FANTASY LAND OF MAKE BELIEVE. ANYONE WHO THINKS FOR ONE SINGE SECOND THAT GEORGE W. BUSH IS GOING TO FACE TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING - I REPEAT - ANYTHING ABOUT POLITICS IN THE LAND OF REALITY!! ANYONE WHO THINKS FOR ONE SINGLE SECOND THAT GEORGE W. BUSH IS GOING TO FACE TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING - I REPEAT ANYTHING ABOUT LIFE. And I would find it awesome that they made it through kindergarten. Because any kindergarten graduate certainly should not be that naive.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

36. The Hague, along with Cheney and anyone else who masterminded

the illegal invasion of Iraq

[LiberalFighter]

39. I rather he face a trial in Iraq, Iran or any other other country that doesn't like him.

[rucky]

40. Not until I see a picture of the puppy.

[jeff30997]

41. K&R

He did the crimes then he deserves to do the time.Same thing for Cheney and all.

[puerco-bellies]

42. This is the only "Rec this if" post I can remember making.

K&R

[Octafish]

44. George Walker Bush lied America into an illegal, immoral and unnecessary war.

The little turd from Crawford is a walking disaster zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F62B6BX0xs

Devil's Island is too good for him.

[theFrankFactor]

46. It's Essential to Set Precedence!

[alllyingwhores]

47. Uhhh...no shit.

[political_Dem]

48. Kicked and Rec'd.

:kick:

[BobTheSubgenius]

49. As *right* as that would be....

....and as much as we should all like to see it, I think it has as much chance of happening as the entire evil cabal surrendering to the FBI and asking for prison time.

[McCamy Taylor]

50. Plus Kissinger, Cheney, Rummie, Gonzo, Mukasey, Ashcroft

[and-justice-for-all]

52. Out the front door of the White House & straight to federal prison..nt

[Blue Velvet]

53. Consider me a recc-ing ball!

I certainly agree with the sentiment.

[liberal N proud]

55. My only regret

I can't recommend this more than once


I would recommend it 1000X

[prostock69]

56. It's more than just war crimes. Please read:

If it is not brought to full light what the Bush Administration has done. We will have the repeat of what we incurred the past 8 years. There are several million people who have no idea of the horrific crimes they have perpetrated. They have no idea that Bush and his Admin. was trying to turn our country into a police state to be controlled by the Christian Right in their preparation for a full-scale holy war with the Muslims. If any of you haven't watched Naomi Wolfe's You Tube Interview with Democracy Now regarding her book "The End of the America, A Letter to a Young Patriot", I highly suggest you do. Link below.

Her book is about how to shut down a democracy in 10 steps that have been performed by all the famous dictators: Stalin, Hitler, Pinochet, Mussolini, etc. The coup leaders used present fear and instilled more fear of possible enemy attack from inside and outside of their countries, declared martial law, sent armed soldiers into residential areas, took over radio and TV stations, issued restrictions on the press, tightened some limits on travel, and took certain activists into custody ALL WHILE THEIR ECONOMIES WERE DYING. Take away the wealth of the nation and put it in the hands of those who want to rule and you have people who have to rely on their government for everything which makes it so much easier to control them. Sound familiar? Below are the 10 steps:

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a Gulag (Outside prisons to be used for torture and interrogation) (
3. Develop a Thug Caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10.Suspend the rule of law

The following link has an article that gives examples of how the Bush Administration has done most of the above: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

Bush was enacting laws to make it easier to do all of these things. Congress is retarded and has no idea what they were signing. Americans were so freaked out after 9/11 that we would have let Bush do just about anything to keep them safe. This opened the door for him to do what he has done the past 8 years. Why do you think Sarah Palin was handpicked to be VP? McCain didn't want her. Her and Bush share one obvious characteristic: Christian Rapture Loving Nutiness. She is the perfect emptyheaded robot that could be easily controlled and manipulated into doing whatever the Cheney/Rove machine wanted. Look how Rove used her during the campaign! She had people convinced that Obama was a Muslim and had terrorist ties! Instill fear in people with false accusations. Divide the people to make it easier to control them. Hmmmm. She was Bush's planned successor. All they would have had to do was hope McCain died or kill him so she could step in. We would have never known the difference since he had a history of illness. Now imagine having her in the White House being controlled by Rove and the network of other people we don't know about that want a full-scale holy war to wipe the muslims off the face of the earth so their beloved "Jesus" could come back. I could easily picture Sarah giving orders to round up ALL the American Muslims and have them detained as enemy combatants of the state and "interrogated", in off-site prisons which we have already in place, which she could have done easily thanks to the laws that were enacted by Congress at the request of Bush. He could do that to any one of us. Scarey. All this needs to be reversed immeditately. I hope and pray that Obama does this within his first year as President and enacts new legislation to prevent this from happening again. Speaking of which: Ron Paul (R-Tex) has submitted HB 3835 "American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007" that reverses a lot of what Bush has done. Link here: http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/storage/afagenda/documents/AFA%20Act%20text.pdf.

Whether you want to admit it or not, Bush and his thugs were systematical shutting down our society using fear and the threat of terrorism by using coined words such as "sleeper cells", taking away our rights, controlling the press (Fox News and censoring the internet), harrassing people (being put on the "watch list" at airports, being arrested after peacefully protesting outside the Republican National Convention) Hell, the attorney I worked for 2 years ago in Fort Worth, Texas was on the watch list and he had no idea why. He had a hell of a time getting through security. Well looking back, I know why: He was an Democrat and he was a "pillar" of the legal community in DFW. He was a threat to the Republicans because he contributed money to campaigns.

When the above steps were happening in Germany at the time of Hitler's rise, there were many apologists who dismissed people's worries that he was trying to take over the country. There were warning bells going off left and right that were IGNORED and DOWNPLAYED. We can't afford to rest on our laurels just because Bush is on his way out. "They" will try to regain control so "They" can continue their religious agenda. Being a Christian Rapture Loving Nut Job doesn't go away just because you are no longer in power. Obama is going to be attacked from every angle by these people. He knows it. He's seen what Bush was trying to do and why. The only way we are going to keep this from happening again is to rout them ALL out and bring them to justice. We the people need to keep the pressure on our elected officials to do just that.

Naomi Wolfe Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH5U-BPJor4&feature=PlayList&p=F32E09FB4FB44B03&index=0&playnext=1

[LongTomH]

71. Well said, Sir!

Put this into a separate post for the editorial page, so more people can see it!

[Joe Bacon]

58. I rec, but I know he will walk away clean

and I know President Asshole will pardon his pals. Makes me puke!

[rhymeandreason]

59. It will never happen.

The Bush administration was obviously complicit in the 9/11 attacks and has successfully covered up their complicity and quashed any real investigation for seven years. Does anyone honestly think that these people will be held to account for subsequent crimes for which 9/11 was the seminal, catalyzing event? I seriously doubt it. They will walk away from all of it and for the vast majority of people the Bush years will become the fading memory of a bad patch in history. There will be no accountability, no trials and no justice.

[tomp]

60. rec. still waiting for change. nt

[colsohlibgal]

62. Absolutely!

I want to see these folks doing a perp walk.

[gtar100]

64. Your OP brings to light the fact that our judicial system is as much in crises as our economy.

It's all too obvious that horrendous crimes have been committed across the board. The *ush administration has been reckless in their duties to uphold and protect the Constitution and have virtually ignored the laws of the United States as they carried out their actions over the last eight years. Yet despite that, there is very little hope that our top judges and prosecutors will have the support they need to successfully complete an investigation. Monied interests stand in the way of justice and Bush is not the type who would take it like a man. He's only part of a rather large tumor that is killing us. Do we have the the will to remove it?

[bobd0]

65. K&R nt

[lame54]

66. No rec from me...

You promised a puppy

no puppy - no rec

[Release The Hounds]

67. K & R

[Turborama]

68. 240th rec. Why not put him and his ilk in Guantanamo?

Live water boarding of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft on live national T.V.anyone?

[rhett o rick]

69. He should be put in solitary confinement awaiting questioning for as long as Padilla was.

After all Bushy set the precedent.

[Baby Snooks]

70. It will never happen..

The policy of George W Bush is the policy of George HW Bush and that policy of "get Saddam" was continued by Bill Clinton. So there will be no indictments and no prosecutions and no redemption of the American people in the world's eyes. Although I wish there would be. I would like to see Madeline Albright tried along with the rest of them. Forced to explain to the world why she believed that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children were "worth it" and just exactly what it was they worth sacrificing them for. And the policy will continue. Because we are seeing the Clintons putting together their administration. And they of course will protect themselves more than anyone else.

History will not be kind to them any more than it will be kind to the Bushes. Most of all history will not be kind to the American people.

A picture is always worth a thousand words. And there are thousands of pictures of Bill Clinton and George HW Bush. And those pictures more than anything else have made it clear, particularly now, that there will be no "Nuremberg" for anyone. Except, perhaps, in the history books.

[earthlite]

72. Cant rec but Im with you.

I dont have enough posts yet to rec but I would like to see W led away in handcuffs after the inauguration.

[hobbit709]

73. After we're done with him, send him to Iraq to face more charges.

[Indepatriot]

74. Check out PROSECUTEGEORGEWBUSH.COM.

These folks are dead serious.

[Bondor]

75. you betcha

K&R!!

[valerief]

76. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. You betcha! nt

[DinahMoeHum]

79. Kickety kick kick, kick kick

:nuke:

[nahant]

81. Impeachment

Bush and his whole administration should be brought to trial. The first step would be Impeachment to Shrub can't pardon anyone like his daddy did at the end of his term. A must read is Scott Horton's post on this at Harpers/No comment http://harpers.org/subjects/NoComment