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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:35 PM
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Republican lies, and Liberal family values
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 07:40 PM by Cyrano
For far too long, the abomination that is the Republican Party has told us that they are the guardians of "Family Values." Their claim goes so far beyond a lie as to be, not just absurd, but insane.

My neighbor is a died-in-the-wool Liberal Democrat who spends much of her life caring for her 97 year old mother and doing everything possible to keep her alert, healthy and happy. Doesn't that fit the definition of "family values?"

I have siblings and many first cousins whose liberal parents labored their entire lives to see that their children got decent educations. Isn't that a "family value?"

What has really happened over the past few decades is that conservatives have told us that we don't value our families and that we are not "real Americans."

The reality is that those who have perpetuated this myth are the scum of the earth. Do you really need the likes of Bush/Cheney/Rove/Gingrich/DeLay -- and so many others like them -- telling you that your moral values are less than theirs?

How could any sane person believe the words and "ideas" spewed forth by people like Pat Robertson, James Dobson and countless charlatans like them? How can anyone fail to understand that what they're hearing is the preaching of pure, unadulterated hatred?

For this moment in history, the Republican Party is defeated, disorganized, in disarray and licking their wounds. But they haven't gone away. They'll be back with a vengeance and they will once again claim the moral high ground of being the only ones who possess "family values."

It saddens me that far too many people will, once again, buy this horribly grotesque lie.

The reality is that no political, or religious entity has a corner on "family values." It is a personal attribute. When you hear the words "family values" come out of someone's mouth, kick your skepticism into gear, and be wary of those who claim to be "holier than thou."
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:40 PM
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1. Repeated enough,
ANYTHING sticks; simple as that.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:04 PM
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2. The problems is that not enough of us refute the lies
And as long as we don't, those lies will fester, take root, and become "reality" to fools, far too many of whom still believe that the Earth is flat.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:04 PM
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3. Then WE need to repeat, ad nauseum:
"The reality is that no political, or religious entity has a corner on "family values." It is a personal attribute. When you hear the words "family values" come out of someone's mouth, kick your skepticism into gear, and be wary of those who claim to be "holier than thou."

If they can stay on message, so can we.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:12 PM
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5. The problem is that lies fit on bumper stickers more easily than truth
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:18 PM
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6. True. How about:
No One Knows the Mind of God?

Other suggestions?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:08 PM
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4. My brother, a true blue Democrat, taught his children
about Republican values early on by calling ketchup "the Republican vegetable". He and his family all volunteer and work hard to help their community and their country--and know what a sham Republican values are.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:15 PM
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8. Yep. I can remember Saint Ronnie claiming that ketchup was a vegetable
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 09:40 PM by Cyrano
The fact that the man wasn't laughed out of office (not to mention that he was voted into office in the first place) will always strengthen H.L. Mencken's statement that "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

After far too many decades of Republicans holding the levers of power, it's past time for intelligent people to start condemning those who would lead us down the pathways of madness.

In many ways, it is a good thing that the MSM, especially newspapers, are becoming obsolete due to the net. And even Faux News is now being countered by Olbermann and Maddow.

Perhaps we are approaching the end of an era of lies, deceit, thievery and the dominance of those who have no conscience or sense of responsibility toward other human beings.

However, I can't remember who said it -- Jefferson? Franklin? Payne? -- "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."

Given the agents of destructiveness that today's Republican Party has become, we can never let our vigilance down. They'll be back.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:23 PM
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7. My BIL, a boy scout leader all his life, has a teen aged son
who is gay. Years ago I asked him about the Boy Scouts refusal to allow homosexuals to work with scouts. He was enthusiastically for it and said that homosexuals were a bad example for young boys. I asked him if he thought being a bigot was a good example. I'm "confrontational", according to family members.

Fast forward ten years. His 17 year old son, who has been raised in two conservative households (one Catholic, the other Fundie) and the Boy Scouts is gay. He had no gay "examples" in the family, Church or scouting. The BIL is a staunch Bush Cheney McCain Palin voting Republican, against gay rights and very much into the "family values" cult.

His son no longer participates in Church or Boy Scouts, where he doesn't feel accepted. The family values crowd doesn't accept reality. Its sad. Family values doesn't accept real family.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:23 PM
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9. want to compare "family values"
Let's look at the two presidential candidates. One left his sick wife for a younger, heiress trophy wife. He probably is only still married to her because her money has bankrolled his political career (otherwise he probably would have hooked up with his VP). He once publically called her the nastiest word that you could call a woman.

The other has been happily married for 16 years and has said that life revolves around his family. His wife has never abused perscription drugs, and his daughters are just adorable.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:48 PM
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10. Hypocrisy is a plague. But Repubs really give hypocrisy a bad name
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 12:10 AM
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12. On a larger scale, haven't studies proven that divorce (and possibly child abuse) are more
prevalent in red states? Actually, why should I worry if it's true or not. I'm just gonna say it is!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:54 PM
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11. Take a look at some real "Republican Family Values"...
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