Definition: Roll Back

[blogslut]

http://www.answers.com/topic/rollback

n.

1. A reduction, especially in prices or wages, to a previous lower level by governmental action or direction: a price rollback; a rollback of military supplies.
2. A turning back or retreat, as from a previously held position or policy: hoped for a rollback of support for the opposition's proposed legislation.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/roll+back

Phrasal Verbs:
roll back
1. To reduce (prices or wages, for example) to a previous lower level.
2. To cause to turn back or retreat.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roll%20back

Main Entry:
roll back
Function:
transitive verb
Date:
1942

1 : to reduce (as a commodity price) to or toward a previous level on a national scale 2 : to cause to retreat or withdraw : push back 3 : rescind <attempted to roll back antipollution standards>

By allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire, those tax levels will roll back to where they were during the Clinton administration.

Obama never said "I will end the Bush tax cuts immediately. He said he would "roll them back". The MSM is squawking because they think we're as dense as they are..

[gblady]

1. that certainly....

has been my impression from watching
umpteen stump speeches for the past seven months...

[blogslut]

2. Thank you

:)

[tekisui]

3. That was always my understanding.

Didn't he even say "allow the bush tax cuts to expire" time and time again? He never said he would immediately "increase taxes" or immediately renege bush's tax cuts.

Wasn't it ALWAYS let them expire?

[blogslut]

4. Yes

But then, our esteemed media has a bit of a memory problem.

[Runcible Spoon]

5. WRONG.

to roll something back is to actively reduce it, not to passively let it expire. If a Wal-Mart commercial gets the fucking connotation right, why is it so difficult for YOU? Regardless of squabbling over what Obama really "meant" or didn't mean before/after/during the debates, the fact of the matter is the tax vacation is NOT being actively dealt with, and yeah that sucks.

[blogslut]

6. No, it isn't

And as I said in another thread, if you had been paying attention you would have heard Barack Obama say, repeatedly, that he was going to allow the Bush tax cuts expire.

[Runcible Spoon]

15. "no it isn't"

wonderful defense of your ridiculous argument. As I said in my first post, regardless of what Obama "meant" or didn't mean by his word choice(s), the fact that the tax vacation isn't going to be actively dealt with sucks. Creative attempts to twist the meaning of terms doesn't change that fact. My other objection was just to point out your lack of reading comprehension in the definitions you yourself posted. Rovian tactics sucked when the Bush admin used them, and trying to adopt them here won't do our causes any good either.

[blogslut]

17. Thank you again for the Rove comparison

I so love how I have become he who is teh evil.

Once again, your inability to comprehend the difference between a bold statement as opposed to a nuanced statement - is your problem.

[Runcible Spoon]

18. you're welcome pumpkin.

I'm sorry the rest of your jackal pack didn't show up to help you out.

[blogslut]

19. Okay

I see you enjoy hostility and I regret to inform you that I have no jackal pack. I will leave you with yourself.

[leftofthedial]

7. Obama defenders are becoming almost as absurd as bush defenders.

[blogslut]

8. Explain the absurdity

I await with baited breath.

If Barack Obama had meant he was going to immediately rescind the Bush tax cuts, then he would have used those words. He did not. He said he would allow them to expire and/or that he would roll them back. Once again, I'm sorry if you heard what you wanted to hear instead of what was actually said.

[mymessageboardid]

12. Then why didn't David Axelrod say that?

David Axelrod, the Obama campaign strategist who was chosen to be a senior White House adviser, was asked if the tax cuts could be allowed to expire on schedule after tax year 2010 rather than being rolled back by legislation earlier. "Those considerations will be made," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

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Then why didn't David Axelrod say something like "It was always our intention to let them expire 2 years from now, where did we ever say we would roll them back earlier??"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081123/pl_nm/us_usa_obama_taxes

[blogslut]

13. Link please?

?

[mymessageboardid]

14. LINK

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081123/pl_nm/us_usa_obama_taxes

[blogslut]

16. Thank you

According to the article, Axlerod left the question unanswered as did Bill Daley.

So, you're having a conniption over the misunderstood, manufactured, suppositions of Randall Mikkelsen?

EDIT ADD: The actual transcript of the statements made by Axelrod

WALLACE: It's been suggested that one way that Mr. Obama could reassure the markets is to announce that he is not going to raise any taxes, even on the wealthy and corporations, during a recession.

Is that something that he is considering announcing, postponing that part of this tax plan?

AXELROD: Well, as you know, Chris, the aggregate effect of his plan would be a net tax cut. He's committed to getting middle-class tax relief in the pipeline quickly, and there's no doubt that we're going to have to make some hard decisions in order to pay for the things we need.

And whether it is through repeal of those tax cuts for the very wealthiest or whether we simply allow it to — allow those cuts to expire in 2010, we're going to accomplish that because we have to. We have to make some hard choices.

WALLACE: But you're making it sound as if one consideration would be to let them expire, which means that the taxes would go up on the wealthy and corporations in 2011 rather than calling for it right away so it would happen in 2009.

AXELROD: Well, as I said, you know, those considerations will be made. The main thing right now is to get this economic recovery package on the road, to get money in the pockets of the middle class, to get these projects going, to get America working again, and that's where we're going to be focused in January...

link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,456508,00.html

[leftofthedial]

20. yeah! ...besides which, as a politician, he can also redefine "roll back"

when push comes to shove.

Part of the problem with Obama has always been the missing details.

Don't strain your back bending over backwards to retroactively define his campaign promises. Also don't strain your back carrying his water.

I never heard him say he would let them expire. The thirty or forty times I heard him promise anything about taxes, it was to implement his plan. He never, to my recollection, promised to do anything vis a vis the bush tax cuts specifically. His plan included cuts for "95%" or "90%" of Americans, depending on his context and tax increases for the richest Americans. Allowing the bush cuts to survive until 2010 is incompatible with his plan.

It is disingenuous now to pretend he didn't want us to think he'd push for his tax plan sooner than 2010.

The absurdity is not what he said, or your ability to use multiple dictionaries, but the way the kool-aid drinkers uncritically defend every decision he makes by pretending that he will do some magical "right thing" eventually.

[JJ]

11. Or Clinton defenders

[Democrats_win]

9. Sounds like trickle down economics to me. I'll vote against it even if DEMS support it .

Look up these words: One-term president, mid-term elections. Do not betray America. Tax the f*ckers and their dead relatives!!!!

[blogslut]

10. Okay

You have fun with that.