still_one
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:02 PM
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So why is uncovered shorts still being allowed? I am not talking about normal shorting of stocks |
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but uncovered shorts, which means the shorting of a position, without the underlying security
Congress hasn't said a word, the SEC is quite, and of course the guardian of us all, the MSM, couldn't care less
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:05 PM
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1. Because Bush is still president |
still_one
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:08 PM
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3. no, it isn't even being brought up by anyone in congress /nt |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:08 PM
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2. The money mongers are still utilizing its destructive capabilities. |
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They're not done yet with their pillaging.
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:12 PM
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5. Absolutely. It is what accelerated the demise of bear stearns and lehman, and will |
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lead the way for citi
It isn't that those financials didn't deserve it, it is that it is being manipulated in the most devious manner, and ironically, it was those very financials, including goldman, which took advantage of that
payback is really a bitch, but no one significant will go to jail for this
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:33 PM
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16. Heavens no! No jail time. Maybe have to forgo a day on the yacht |
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to attend a hearing or two though. What an inconvenience to them... *sigh*
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:10 PM
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4. Why wouldn't it be allowed? |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:14 PM
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7. Can you short a stock without borrowing the underlying security? |
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how can you short something, that doesn't have an underlying security behind that short position?
It is a fraud
It results in shorting shares that don't even exist
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RB TexLa
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:14 PM
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8. It's not fraud and the SEC has never considered it fraud. |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:16 PM
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11. This is a relatively new phenomena. You can't short a position without borrowing the stock from |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:18 PM
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12. Yes you can. And people do. What do you care if they have borrowed the security or not? |
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all it does is add more risk to their position.
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:22 PM
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14. I write naked puts and calls, but I can't short any stocks unless they can come up with the shares |
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of the underlying security
Maybe you have a higher trading privilege than I do
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:29 PM
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15. Naked calls? You have more guts than I do |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:33 PM
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17. When I do write uncovered calls, I watch it very carefully, and close the |
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position off if it goes the wrong direction
I do NOT hold it until expiration if it trends the wrong way
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:19 PM
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13. When the number of uncovered short sales in a stock EXCEEDS its public float |
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or even the total number of shares outstanding, that is manipulation
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:12 PM
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6. UP-TICK RULE MUST COME BACK |
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SHORTS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:14 PM
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9. It is the uncovered shorts that are destroying America, and you are correct about the uptick rule |
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Sun Nov-23-08 09:15 PM
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10. Because it's still profitable |
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Other countries have moved to eliminate the practice and it should be eliminated here, too.
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