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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:02 AM
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Related to "Princeton sidewalk"...gays now will be telling heterosexuals that
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 11:06 AM by Neshanic
marriage is not part of their belief system, and your husband/wife will be called all but that.

Good idea. I am starting today.

"From DataLounge....a place most here would not survive.

That's how a gay man in NYC is "giving back" to those who oppose marriage for gays. I like what he's doing and plan to try it. Tom, a photographer and art director wrote the following:

I no longer recognize marriage. It's a new thing I'm trying.

Turns out it's fun. Yesterday I called a woman's spouse her boyfriend. She says, correcting me, "He's my husband", and I say, "I no longer recognize marriage."

The impact is obvious. I tried it on a man who has been in a relationship for years, "How's your longtime companion, Jill?"

"She's my wife!"

"Yeah, well, my beliefs don't recognize marriage."

Fun. And instant, eyebrow-raising recognition. Suddenly the majority gets to feel what the minority feels. In a moment they feel what it's like to have their relationship downgraded, and to have a much taken-for-granted right called into question because of another's beliefs.

Just replace the words husband, wife, spouse, or fiance with boyfriend, girlfriend, special friend, or longtime companion. There is a reason we needed stronger words for more serious relationships. We know it; now they can see it.

A marriage is a lot of things. Culturally, it's a declaration to the community that two people are now a unit, and that unity should be respected. Legally, it's a set of rights and responsibilities. And spiritually, it's whatever your beliefs think it is.

That's what's so great about America. As a Constitutionally secular nation, or at least in reality a vaguely pluralistic nation, we can all have our own spiritual take on what marriage is. What's troublesome is when one group's spiritual beliefs deny the cultural and legal rights of another.

But, back to the point. They say their beliefs don't recognize my marriage, I say my People get married to be recognized as a permanent couple. To be acknowledged by friends, family, and strangers as being off the market, in a relationship, totally hooked up, yikes! It's impossible to say without saying "married". We wear rings to declare this!

So, we can take this away. We can refuse to recognize marriage in the cultural sense. It is totally within our rights, as Americans, to follow our beliefs and recognize or not recognize what we like. I guess this is a call out to all Americans with beliefs similar to mine. If you believe that all people should have equal rights, and if you believe that marriage is one of the greatest destinations of a relationship, then perhaps you believe that nobody should have marriage until everybody does. That's what I believe."
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:08 AM
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1. Me-likey.
If for no other reason than to get people thinking.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:09 AM
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2. happy to recommend
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:35 AM
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3. I like this
However, no matter what the situation is in the future, if I ever get married, I will introduce my wife as my concubine, and I will be introduced as her gigolo.

I'm a romantic at heart.

TlalocW
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:38 AM
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4. Good idea. K&R. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:45 AM
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5. I like this a bunch. K&R.
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 11:45 AM by cliffordu
I just told my wife about this and she agreed.

"I no longer recognize you as my husband..."


Ba dum-dum....


(sorry had to get that out of my system.)


EVERYONE should start doing this.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:57 AM
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6. This is great. I was so angry to find out this morning that my favorite
movie theaters in the Chicago area support hate. For everyone in Chicagoland, the CEO of Century Theaters in Evanston and Lakeview (Alan Stock) donated $9999 to Yes on Prop 8 because he's a Mormon bigot. Talk about a stupid business decision aside from being just plain hateful. Evanston is a suburb that is widely known to be very liberal and gay-friendly, and part of the Lakeview neighborhood is called "Boystown" for a reason. A huge percentage of the theaters' patronage is gay or totally sympathetic. I pretty much hate every other movie theater near my house, but I guess I will just be renting dvds from now on instead of going to movies.

Anyway, long story short, this article was good timing because I'm feeling so frustrated and powerless.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 12:18 PM
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7. Not only effective, funny too.
That's a good combination.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 01:40 AM
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8. Original source article - A Marriage Manifesto... Of Sorts
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Calitarian Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 02:45 AM
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9. Nice
This needs to gain traction
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 07:15 AM
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10. Welcome, Calitarian.
:hi:

As to the original post, great idea.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 08:33 AM
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11. I like it. "When do you celebrate your domestic partnership?"
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stopwastingmymoney Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 12:44 PM
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12. Kick I like it
I'm going to start referring to my husband as my boytoy...
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