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Mon Nov-24-08 11:27 AM
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What inspired all the threads about overweight people? |
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:28 AM
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Court case that requires airlines to give two seats to an obese person I believe.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:30 AM
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2. Damn Canadians...always stirring up shit. |
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I guess it gets boring in the winter up there.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:31 AM
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3. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:33 AM
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5. Blame Canada! Blame Canada! |
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Damn you! Earworm. Here, there's plenty to go around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66N6ifAFrFs
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Mon Nov-24-08 12:42 PM
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16. Disabled and obese on CANADIAN DOMESTIC flights... |
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:32 AM
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4. Don't know. But the trolls obviously got the memo to harp on it all weekend. |
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:20 PM
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21. Unless you saw the thread, you'd know that it wasn't trolls harping on it. The posts in that |
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:35 AM
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6. Same thing over and over.... |
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Some DUers live to laud their own virtuousness and superiority (special powers of observation, intelligence, or whatever) over others...
So, the Canadian court case gave the perfect entree' for those who feel they have all they answers as to why OTHERS are overweight to counsel (and scold) all others...:eyes:
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:48 AM
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Some people have nasty personalities so they bash others to feel'superior'. To me the bullies are the ones who need some bashing, until they learn to leave people alone and stop hurting them because they think they can get away with it..
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:40 AM
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7. It's like any issue on this board |
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It just gets beat to death.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:52 AM
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11. because some people are bigots |
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Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 11:53 AM by undergroundpanther
and self rightious and want to be the hero and so they bash the fat people.admonish them for eating, offer unwanted advice,etc.etc.Bashed fat people get rightfully pissed and it goes and goes.
If you want to end these kinds of threads, stop excusing the pervasive bullying and patronizing going on within these kinds of threads by bashing the bigots for being so fucking mean , intrusive,callous and unwilling to listen, instead of following the crowd and turning on fat people defending themselves when these threads arise to scapegoat them.
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Mon Nov-24-08 12:02 PM
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13. I hope you didn't think I was partaking of the bashing |
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My comment was in regards to DU and our obsessiveness with one issue or another, nothing specific about this issue. God know I don't have much room to talk on this issue.
Besides I always try to avoid the threads where bigots tend to migrate just to stay above the fray. The only reason I commented on this thread was my opinion on DU's obsession on any given issue.
Guess I should have avoided any thread realted to this topic, live and learn
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Mon Nov-24-08 12:23 PM
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You aren't bashing anyone by asking a question.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:40 AM
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some ignorant jerk made some uncalled for remark then got defensive and abusive when called on it and like-mineded assholes jumped in to make SURE those fatties knew exactly how big a loser each and every one of them is. That of course sparked threads about fad diets, fad "studies" and more junk science then you can shake a Bose-Einstine condensate at. All or most aimed at making sure fat people are seen as stupid...
Just the normal high school antics by DU bullies.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:58 AM
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There are plenty of statistics to show how much HARM bullies create wherever they are tolerated.DU would be better off without the bullies.Hell the world would be better off without bullies. http://www.bullyonline.org/index.htmhttp://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E6DB1E38F930A25757C0A9629C8B63
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:31 PM
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People have opinions, and they argue to defend those opinions. Some of those opinions can possibly be wrong, but still vigorously defended.
It seems to me the "bullies" here are the ones who want to tar people with certain opinions as either bigots, hateful, or bullies.
How dare you have the opinion that eating too much and not excercising enough causes people to gain weight??!1!! You hateful a$$hole!! :spank:
from my journal
Do we think things because we want to Posted by hfojvt in The DU Lounge Mon Feb 12th 2007, 07:53 PM or because they seem true to us? It may depend on the person and the case. When there are rewards involved, like people who want to believe that tax cuts are a good idea because they want that extra money. But what about when there is no obvious dog in the hunt? Some of the stubborn arguing comes from a core belief - I want to believe that I am intelligent and informed, and even beneath that, I want to believe that I am worthy of respect and affection. Sort of like the Nomad effect. Nomad's prime directive was that everyone who made a mistake must be destroyed. Is that the human prime directive - everyone who makes a mistake must have their ego destroyed? Often that seems to be the theme in arguments or discussions - you are not only wrong, you are contemptible for being so.
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:45 PM
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26. thanks for having no clue |
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and owning up to it...yeah scolding and shaming works so very well in that kind of situation. Please go back to your good work of emotionally torturing those around you so you can feel like you are a perfect fucking person.
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Mon Nov-24-08 02:10 PM
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I should feel like I am an ignorant a$$hole just like you do.
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Mon Nov-24-08 11:45 AM
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fat people are one group of people that our culture can heap hate on,blame them for being'unsightly' and chastise. Poverty and overweight go hand in hand some times and fat bashing is permitted in this culture.
I hate fat bashers but unless you are fat you do not see it like all the other prejudices targeted people face, you do not see it until you are targeted.Fat bashing is a throwback to the dark ages when gluttony was a sin(for poor people) many kings and popes were fat nobody dared say anything about them.) Fat is a class issue.An "aesthetic " issue for fat phobes.
Calories in/out is a widely believed LIE.Calorie reduction does not as thin person make, it just slows their metabolism more.If diets worked so well there wouldn't be so many diets selling dreams,to fat people who just want acceptance,If a diet worked every time there would be no fat people.Also there would be no eating disorders.
I think our food supply ,pollution stress(one in 4 people have some form of psychopathy ,narcissism and authoritarianism) that means 1 in 4 people use and abuse others in one way or another that creates stress stress can put on weight. Rape is too common of a crime also weight can be put on as a self protecting mechanism.There are more problems with fat people fail to see due to nearly every medication has a side effect of weight gain and alot of people take meds. Also due to overuse of antibiotics in this country people's gut flora are sick..Overweight can be caused by many overlooked things "Issues often ignored by patronizing well meaning busybodies" giving fat people unwanted advice..Causes of overweight are complex each person might be fat for many reasons not just calories consumed.Fat people are treated as pariahs, they are the last socially acceptable target fort"normals" to dump on,the other is the homeless.This fat/poverty bashing crap has got to end.
Fat people are as human and as vulnerable/strong as you are. They deserve respect too.
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:04 PM
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18. Uh oh. Brace yourself. |
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Mon Nov-24-08 05:48 PM
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29. Most of the people that would be offended probably already hate me |
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:13 PM
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20. Krispy Kreme what? Oh, I get it... |
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the solution to all life's problems, eh?
(For the record, I don't think I have ever had one but I don't believe the hype.)
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Mon Nov-24-08 12:45 PM
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17. Bigots masquerading as progressives. n/t |
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:07 PM
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19. But absolutely no gluttons masquerading as victims. |
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:21 PM
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22. Here is a link to the thread that started it all |
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:29 PM
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23. Commies did it, they attack every three months on the dot... |
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Over 20% body fat...
WATCH OUT!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Mon Nov-24-08 01:34 PM
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25. A question I held and didn't have the nerve to ask. |
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Thanks for asking. Clears it up for me, too.
:hi:
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Mon Nov-24-08 02:12 PM
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28. Everyone's deeply-held convictions on the topic |
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Since everyone eats, everyone is an expert, apparently.
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