You do realize, if Obama does nothing about the criminal Bush administration.

[arcadian]

We'll likely have a Republican who is worse than Bush in 8 years. Or worse, in 4 years. A lot of people thought it couldn't get any worse than Nixon back in '74.

[John Q. Citizen]

1. Elephants should sue the GOP to protect their good name. But i agree with your OP.

Criminal behavior (like torture, politically motivated prosecutions, etc,) will only increase unless the laws against it are enforced.

[cali]

2. No, I hardly thinks that's the only factor as whether repubs

get back in power.

[AndyA]

3. According to Obama's campaign, he will have his Attorney General look into the dealings

of the Bush Administration. And if crimes were committed, they will be prosecuted.

I hope they keep their word.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. The reason we got Bush

was that Ford pardoned Nixon before any trial. Rove and his dirty tricks were never punished, and we all know what happened because of that.

[Thothmes]

23. Disagree

the reason we got Bush's war in Iraq is because we did not prosecute LBJ for his war crimes in Vietnam. We gave Bush a clean slate to work with.

[merh]

48. Don't forget how Reagan's crimes and Poppy's crimes were

overlooked

[gratuitous]

5. For sure

How many Nixon-era retreads did we get in Bush the Dumber's administration? Our penalty for not prosecuting them back in the 70s was having to deal with their delusional politics in the 00s. If we don't sweep out these Augean Stables, we're going to see all the low-level factotums from the Bush administration installed in higher positions where they can fuck things up even worse in the teens or the 20s.

[seemslikeadream]

6. The Secret Government Constitution in Crisis

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&ei=W9spSaz4M4byiALD1JDxBg&q=The+Secret+Government

[lurky]

7. Yep. The only lesson they ever seem to get out of their scandals

is that they didn't act criminally enough. Look at all their quotes about how Nixon should never have recorded his meetings. Look at Oliver North.

The Cheney faction will never accept or understand that torture, murder, wiretapping, arming terrorists, subverting democracy are fundamentally wrong. All these things are fundamental and inseparable from their very philosophy. They will only improve their strategies for getting away with it.

[MisterP]

8. this is actually cyclical: despite Watergate and the Church Committee,

most of Nixon's goons and Vietnam's planners got off lightly and buttressed the New Right, culminating in the "Reagan" shadow government. Cold-War and conservative Dems dragged their feet on Iran-Contra and then pushed the Left out of the Democratic Party. The shadow-government neocons staged a coup in '00 that introduced authoritarian personality-cult politics and a low-grade Nazism which focuses on war between "civilizations," not races or religions).
We cannot afford Democrats that enact conservative policies and then use their Party label to claim immunity from criticism. We cannot afford a Cabinet of Generals or another Friedrich Ebert--who was a "SD" but got the Freikorps started.

[truedelphi]

14. Can I ask who is Freidrich Ebert?? not familiar w/ term

Of Freikorps either

[sofa king]

49. I wondered about that, too.

It's a fairly common name in Germany, but the most famous Freidrich Ebert was the first President of the Weimar Republic. He had a son who was a shill for the Soviets. The Weimar Republic, built from the shambles of the First World War and limited to a professional military force of 100,000 men, relied heavily on "volunteer corps" of WWI vets to duke it out with the communists, socialists, anarchists, and a-holes trying to move in on Germany's weakness. The Freikorps was heavily conservative, disconcertingly violent, and was disbanded by 1920. Its remnants became the raw material of the Nazi Party, including the SS and its intelligence wings, the Gestapo and the SD.

The founder and leader of the SD was Reinhard Heydrich, considered by many to be the most competent, ambitious, and ruthless of Nazi spooks, so much so that while the Brits refuse to admit it to this day (and they apparently continue to edit the Wikipedia page), they ambushed and assassinated Heydrich in Czechoslovakia using anthrax and/or botulinum toxins. In reprisal for Heydrich's death, the Germans picked two Czech villages and murdered the male inhabitants.

I still don't know what that post means, though.

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

9. If Obama does nothing about the criminal Bush administration

he will spend the an enormous amount of time fending off manufactured scandals. The Arkansas project will look like a part time pet hobby compared to what will come down the pike by these wing nuts. These people have no shame and do not care that our country is in crisis. They couldn't stand President Clinton or Carter because they were popular with the people and will do anything to bring a Democrat president down, even if it means selling out their country, as was shown by Valerie Plame.

This sounds like over the top hysteria, but I assure you, it is not.

[arcadian]

12. This is a fantastic point.

He should put the Repukes on the defensive so the MSM, Scaife types, etc. have little energy to attack him.

[robinlynne]

28. They are already doing it. 6 lawsuits across the country alledge that there is something

wrong with Obama's birth certificate, even though there is NOT. (already confirmed by the records people in Hawaii). One of them was accepted by the supreme court for consideration yesterday! Shades of Bush vs Gore.
Ask DUer Landshark!

[Kaye1]

10. no reason

Obama is going to have to go after the Bush regime. He will have the appointees to the justic dept. that he needs,
he has a majority in Congress. There should be no reason not to go after those criminals hard core!

[ContinentalOp]

11. Nah, screw Bush & Cheney. It didn't matter that Nixon was disgraced.

It's the people behind the scenes who really matter. You could throw Bush and Cheney both in jail and there would still be another Republican administration in 8 or 12 years. And it will be filled with some of the same behind-the-scenes crooks whose names we probably don't even know right now.

[EFerrari]

13. I say cut to the chase and forget about the new administration doing anything.

Let's go straight to the international community and not waste time being dicked around for years.

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. !

:thumbsup:

[EFerrari]

21. I've never typed "dicked" before.

:rofl:

[SammyWinstonJack]

26. LOL!

:evilgrin:

[Odin2005]

15. No, whatever happens to Bush, Cheney, and Co. the GOP is stuck in the wilderness...

...for a generation, just like the GOP in 1932.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

16. I blame the DLC Democrats for allowing him to get away with everything he has

I also blame Obama, Nanci Pelosi and other so-called progressive Dems who have put impeachment "off the table."

Dennis Kucinich is a true, American hero!

[fascisthunter]

20. Watch... they will blame Progressives and Liberals again, but not centrists

watch....

There is not one Progressive or liberal being assigned to this administration, yet we will be blamed again. It's not an accident either.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. Not only are we blamed for shit, we don't have any power and have been marginalized

in the Democratic party. And then, what do we do? We work out hearts out to reelect these same kooks to office...and yet we continue to be demonized for being right. None of these fools have been right on anything: from the war, to torture, to Patriot Act, and on and on...

[Orsino]

17. Even more important is...

...legislating away the power that made Bush/Cheney abuses possible.

If Congress and the Obama Administration fail in both these areas, we are guaranteed more of the same.

[Art_from_Ark]

45. Considering that Obama voted to renew the "Patriot" Act

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00029

which was supported by every single Republican in the Senate, and he voted for FISA, even went out of his way to do it during the campaign, I am not too optimistic about his desire to "legislate away the power that made Bush/Cheney abuses possible"

[fascisthunter]

18. Oh... we know...

and so do those in Congress. I have very little faith the democratic leadership nor Obama's administration are up for the task.

[Swamp Rat]

22. To the Hague!!

[specimenfred1984]

24. Most people care more about Palin photoshops and YouTube puppies

We've got millions of idiot citizens too stupid to think for themselves, these people are "good Germans" stuck in nationalized propaganda frameworks created for them by the very people ripping them off.

[robinlynne]

27. exactly. and he is not going to do anything. He campaigned from day one

for sitting at the table with them in "harmony". That's why I voted for Edwards in the primary.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Edwards, I miss him.

:-( He is still the one I wanted.

[robinlynne]

46. Yes. He is a fighter. He'll be back. Or others will step up!

[Horse with no Name]

30. I don't have a donor star

but if you search the archives Obama said he would NOT pursue the crimes of this administration. He wanted to move forward, not backward.
It isn't going to happen.

[SammyWinstonJack]

31. Pretty much what Clinton said about bush 41 and we were stuck with shrub as a result of that.

[Horse with no Name]

32. Yep. So we can pretty much figure that the vermin will ooze back to their holes

and figure out to do it next time for keeps.
The same people have been screwing our country since before the Kennedy assassination. I have no good reason to believe that they (or their minions) will ever go away without prosecution.
Why would they?

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. "Why would they?" No reason too, if they keep getting a free pass.

And it looks like they will. x(

[The Straight Story]

37. Try this:

go to google, type in the search term followed by site:democraticunderground.com
It might search it all for you :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. if Obama does nothing about the criminal Bush administration

I will and so will others. We need to keep the flame alive.

I have great faith in Obama doing the right thing,
but see him doing it methodologically and not as quickly as we would like.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. You have more faith than I do.

:shrug:

[Ichingcarpenter]

38. Not really, faith is a dream

that still gives me hope that things will change for the better.

I don't see any movement in the Obama adminstration until almost
the beginning of the second term, meanwhile, as more things are uncovered
there will be a world and national outrage even by the uninformed which
will eventually bring about Justice.

Faith means belief in something concerning which doubt is theoretically possible

[gravity]

35. This is nonsense

Bitter partisan battles will always benefit the republicans. They are better playing that game.

Obama is doing what it takes to ensure a long term Democratic majority. This guy is rewriting the rules of how the political game is played so it plays in the Democrats hands finally.

[Ichingcarpenter]

40. Bitter partisan battles stopped the equal rights amendments and woman's vote

For years......... Also Slavery continued because of partisanshit!

Even Lincoln saw that.

[gravity]

41. You have to choose your battles

[Ichingcarpenter]

42. Simplistic assessment of a battle plan

that ignores winning the war.

[gravity]

43. Wasting our poltical capital on past battles is stupid

And I am glad Obama isn't going on that path.

[Ichingcarpenter]

47. I'm sure your myopic viewpoint on pathways

will lead you to a destination that excludes justice and the rule of law.
Your battles have always been tied to money
its in your typical screed.

So much for those that fought for your rights in the past.

[dana_b]

52. well said!

Not to mention the original point that if Bush and Co. get away with it, the next time will be worse.

Also what about the poor folks who are still fighting this horrible war? Should we just forget about them and what they've had to do in the name of this atrocity? Now - they have to be held accountable.

[rhett o rick]

51. We are not talking about bitter partisan battles, we are talking about holding individuals

accountable for breaking the laws. Especially when people die as a result.

[unkachuck]

39. "if Obama does nothing about the criminal Bush administration."

....and we know he won't do anything about bushco....he wouldn't even give our own traitor-joe a spanking....do we think Obama's going to pursue the largest criminal enterprise the world has ever seen?

"...a Republican who is worse than Bush in 8 years..."

....the stage has already been set, the actors are warming up behind the curtain....and I doubt in 4 years, the 'warm and friendly' Obama will still be capable of walking on water....

[Acryliccalico]

44. Prison for ALL of them!

I for one want to see them all pay for what they have done .:nuke:

[leftofthedial]

50. that's the pattern

unmistakeable