Code Pink Accepts Ahmadenejad's Invitation to Visit Iran

[Lionhearted]

n an effort to establish peaceful diplomacy with the government and people of Iran, and to model for the new Obama administration the power of cooperative good will, three highly regarded American peace makers, among them Jodi Evans and Medea Benjamin have ventured to Iran.

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/11/24/us-citizen-diplomats-arrive-in-iran-invited-by-ahmadinejad/

[Trajan]

1. As much as I despise the Neocons ....

The Iranian leader is a hardcore fascist Theocrat, and doesnt deserve our support in ANY way ...

He is far from being a Liberal .....

[Texasgal]

2. Agreed.

This is insane!

[smkyle1]

3. the trip was negotiated with an American Peace organization

The Fellowship of Reconciliation helped to make this happen, according to the article

http://www.forusa.org/

[Texasgal]

11. I don't care who it was supported by

Ahmadenejad is an asshole dictator who would kill those ladies in a second and not give a rats ass about it.

Screw him.

[TheWraith]

19. Let's be accurate. Ahmadenejad is a puppet leader.

The job description of the President of Iran is to strut around like a prize rooster, and to handle the minor things that he's allowed to handle by the people who actually run the government. The REAL authority lies with the Ayatollah.

[Texasgal]

21. Okay... how does that make it a difference?

[TheWraith]

23. Mostly in that it doesn't matter what he actually thinks or would do.

He doesn't actually run the country, and as such isn't the one with the power to do anything, good or bad. He's more like a press spokesman than a head of state. People's outrage should be directed at the real seat of power.

[Texasgal]

24. Okay.

So if it makes no difference then why are they going to talk with "Ahmadenejad"?

[eridani]

36. Probably because ribbon-cutting functions are things that the real powers actually allow him to do

--and going to state dinners, etc.

[leftynyc]

42. Then it's even a bigger waste of time

and looks to be nothing more than a photo op where these women are allowing themselves to be used.

[acmavm]

46. He doesn't have the authority to tie his own shoes. He's just

a distraction.

[The Stranger]

61. That is one of the most extraordinarily mindless posts I have ever read here.

It is like it came from cartoon land.

[Boojatta]

25. Insane like a fox.

A visit to Iceland at this time of year would be insane.

[Ohio Joe]

34. I agree completely - nt

[Dorian Gray]

39. I agree with this, as well

We should not be dealing with Ahmadinejad. The Iranian people are very moderate in their Islamic beliefs, and I truly believe that they're on the verge of a cultural revolution. But the current leaders (the Ayatollahs and Ahmadinejad) are not the people we or our representatives should be making deals with.

[upi402]

4. foolish to go

would be useful idiots to go

theocrats who woul stone the women of code pink if they were citizens there

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. Code Pink Proving Their Magnificent Stupidity Yet Again.

What a bunch of morons. Just absolute morons.

[Webster Green]

7. Wrong!

Code Pink fucking rocks! :wtf:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

13. LOL. They're A Bunch Of Morons, And This Is Further Proof.

And the saddest part is that they're so friggin brain dead and so neatly wrapped in their own warped little bubble that they can't even realize how moronic this is.

They're an embarrassment. :hi:

[Webster Green]

29. You ain't seen nuthin' yet!

Wimps can sit back and watch.

Truth to power!

Code Pink Rocks! :smoke:

[Hanse]

30. It's so incredibly stupid, you can't even explain why?

That must be some kind of stupid.

[jrockford]

12. WTF? What's moronic about it? nt

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. ROFLMAO!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:dunce:

[Occulus]

32. Don't laugh at the (wo)man.

Fucking explain why.

[Name removed]

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[Donald Ian Rankin]

55. It will completely destroy their own credibility, if nothing else.

Whatever your views on the ethics of extending the hand of friendship to a man as wicked as Ahmadinejad (not a word I think is too strong to describe a man who runs a country where homosexuality is a capital offence), from a purely pragmatic standpoint it's a massive tactical error - it won't change American's views of Iran or vice versa, and it will make most Americans dismiss Code Pink as "friends of Ahmadinejad".

[SammyWinstonJack]

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

49. I Care.

That's enough for me! :hi:

[pocoloco]

6. Wow!! Code Pinks Rocks!!

They have put their ass on the line for the rest of us since it's beginning!

And yet there are dipfucks here who would degrade them?

[smkyle1]

8. it takes a lot of guts to do what their doing n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. No, It Takes A Lot Of Sheer Stupidity Mixed With A Good Dose Of Attention Whoring.

They're gifted in displaying both.

[Hanse]

31. Try the caviar, I hear it's very good.

And be careful with your bags at the layover at Heathrow. I don't think they've ironed out all the kinks in their baggage system yet.

[moodforaday]

38. Should Obama not meet with Ahmadinejad,

either? Would that be stupid, too? If not, why not?

[Dorian Gray]

40. No, he shouldn't.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

50. ROFLMAO!!!!!! Yeah, Code Pink And Obama Are Comparable...

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[moodforaday]

63. Ah, so your opinion is about

Code Pink, not about Ahmadinejad. At least Code Pink are on the good side.

And really, in between all your witless vitriol and ROTFL-ing, I have yet to see a word of cogent argument from you, anywhere. You're embarrassing yourself.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

57. Yes, and no, respectively.

Obama is a politician. His meeting people is a matter of substance, and so it makes sense for him to meet as many people as possible, good and bad.

Code Pink are a pressure group. Their meeting people is a purely symbolic gesture, and they should only launch formal meetings like this with people where the effect of the message "Code Pink regard this person as a friend" will be a possitive one, because there's nothing more important at stake.

In this case, it clearly won't be - the message it sends, clearly, is "Code Pink have no perspective, and assume anything Bush is against must be good".

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. They are not dumb and naive

they know the Iranian government will try to use them,
but at the same time they can help start a dialogue against hate.

What better season for it?

[Trajan]

17. I am not sure calling Ahmadenejad a fascist theocrat is 'degrading' Code Pink ....

I said nothing about Code Pink, and I generally support their goals, even if I dislike their methods ...

The point is: Going to coddle Ahmadenejad isnt much different than coddling Bush ... different side of the world; SAME mindless adherence to bullheaded religious extremism, and certainly a foe of woman's rights, as well homosexual rights ...

As I said: as much as I dislike the Neocons: Ahmadenejad is hardly much better ...

BTW: I am no dipfuck ...

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. I wouldn't put it pass them that they make a political statement there too

They have more guts than people realize and stand up for
all human rights.

[Starks]

9. Code Pink does not represent the nation, but good for them.

Talking with Iran is always a welcome gesture.

[TheWraith]

18. "Highly regarded peace makers" my ass.

Medea Benjamin is a kook, and will remain so every day of her life. She might as well be paid by Rush Limbaugh, considering all the effort she puts out trying to prove that all anti-war people are insane suicide doves.

I'm surprised Ann Wright agreed to be part of this--her, I actually have some respect for.

[Vektor]

27. Hmm. Yeah, I met Ann in D.C., and she was a heck of a cool lady.

I've got nothing but respect for her as well.

[Webster Green]

35. Bullshit!

Medea is a true patriot, an incredibly courageous woman.

You would probably be scared shitless to hang with her for a day.

Truth to power! Code Pink fucking rocks! :patriot:

[EFerrari]

59. I love Medea. She's an amazing person.

lol

:hi:

[JI7]

26. hope they bring up the issue of gay rights to him

[boozepusher]

28. According to Achmadinnerjacket

there are no gays in Iran.

[Hekate]

33. Uhhhh. Can they get the release of the American grad student who foolishly went there?

Can't remember her name, but this was fairly recent. She's of Iranian descent and decided to travel to the Old Country to do some dissertation work. Last I heard she was in prison, for doing nothing any free-born American woman wouldn't do, like walk around loose.

I regard Code Pink's current enterprise rather dubiously.

Hekate

[eridani]

37. Personally, I'd demand to be allowed to interview Shirin Ebadi

If I were turned down, then no deal.

[Marrah_G]

41. Wooo- popcorn anyone? n/t

:popcorn:

[Peacetrain]

43. Pass that over here..

:popcorn:

[Marrah_G]

47. And something to drink!

:toast:

[Peacetrain]

48. Bottoms up!!

:toast:

[cali]

44. it's irrelevant. what can they accomplish?

they have no diplomatic authority. CP is an organization with no influence on anyone- either here or abroad.

Having said that, it's hardly damaging anything should they make this visit.

[aikoaiko]

51. This is a stunt -- not diplomacy.

wtf?

[ensho]

52. thank you code pink and the other people who went to Iran for PEACE

Peace is not a dirty word. Peace is good.

why any DUer would be against Code Pink makes me wonder about them.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

60. "why any DUer would be against Code Pink makes me wonder about them

Amen.

Man, it sure has changed here over the years -- and not necessarily for the better. :(

Media Benjamin is a hero -- I proudly voted for her for Senator against Feinstein a few years back.

[EFerrari]

53. Good trip! I hope everyone stays safe.

:kick:

[mikelgb]

54. I support Code Pink

[LWolf]

56. Good.

I'd like to see the new administration follow their example.

Wishful thinking, of course. ;)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

58. Bravo for the peacemakers. K&R

[The Stranger]

62. Weird how when someone (or some group) acts like an adult, all of the child cry out in fear.

Code Pink is simply doing what any adult human being does.

Deal with it.

[cali]

64. I don't see them as acting like adults at all. Far from it.

I see it as a publicity stunt- and utterly devoid of any meaning. And that they have the temerity to call it diplomacy is just amusing.

They're really of no consequence. I don't mind them, and sometimes I've rather enjoyed them, but they sure as hell haven't helped move the causes forward, that they undoubtedly believe in.

[The Stranger]

66. Oh bullshit.

They were some of the only ones with the "temerity" to stand up against the war crime back when everyone and their fucking dog, including Hilary Clinton, were spoiling for a trillion-dollar, murderous and unprovoked attack on Iraq. They have consistently stood up where others have not.

And going to talk to the "Other," when even supposed Progressives on this board shout them down, is only further testament to the courage of Code Pink.

[fed_up_mother]

65. Establish peaceful diplomacy? This is a publicity stunt. Nothing more.

I realize that publicity stunts have their purposes, but that's all this is.