What happens if things continue to worsen, regardless of what the Fed or Treasury do?

[closeupready]

And we lose control of our economy (inflation, unemployment, people starving, etc.)?

[RainDog]

1. don't forget deflation in the happy talk

since prices for things are falling, this is the worst possible scenario - any debt that anyone has will be paid in dollars that are worth less than the debt it purchased.

I do not know what happens beyond the knowledge that people find ways to survive.

I'm currently in "play the fiddle while the Titanic sinks" mode myself, since I have no idea how the future is going to play out (maybe that other liner will see the distress signals, maybe there are enough life boats...who knows.)

[tama]

4. There's beauty

"Individually and collectively, anything we do to resist or postpone the collapse will only make it worse. So stop resisting the revolution in human beingness. If you want to survive the multiple crises unfolding today, do not seek to survive them. That is the mindset of separation; that is resistance, a clinging to a dying past. Instead, allow your perspective to shift toward reunion, and think in terms of what you can give. What can you contribute to a more beautiful world? That is your only responsibility and your only security. The gifts you need to survive and enjoy will come to you easily, because what you do to the world, you do to yourself."
http://www.realitysandwich.com/money_and_crisis_civilization

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. Give mercy and compassion

to those in misery. This is one way to make the world more beautiful. Another way is to appreciate the beauty that is around you.

[tama]

11. We've had

couple days of snow here. Melting tomorrow, but children got to play in snow. :)

[Old Codger]

2. It is called

A depression, millions out of work losing everything, begging for food. My late father-in-law grew up in the depression he told about riding the rails and how everyone would pass on any info on who were the soft touches in which towns and which ones to stay away from... Which sheriffs would run ya out of town and which ones wouldn't bother ya.. it was interesting to hear, I don't think I would like to try it today although back in the 60's it was still a somewhat do-able, I know cause I did some of it for about a year but would not try now...Hopefully it won't come to that but from what I see it is pretty apparent that they do not have a clue as to what is needed.

[KansDem]

5. "Big Rock Candy Mountain"

One evening as the sun went down and the jungle fire was burning
Down the track came a hobo hiking and he said boys I'm not turning
I'm headin for a land that's far away beside the crystal fountains
So come with me we'll go and see the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains there's a land that's fair and bright
Where the handouts grow on bushes and you sleep out every night
Where the boxcars are all empty and the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees and the cigarette trees
Where the lemonade springs where the bluebird sings
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains all the cops have wooden legs
And the bulldogs all have rubber teeth and the hens lay soft boiled eggs
The farmer's trees are full of fruit and the barns are full of hay
Oh, I'm bound to go where there ain't no snow
Where the rain don't fall and the wind don't blow
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains you never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol come a-trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats and the railroad bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew and of whiskey too
You can paddle all around 'em in a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains the jails are made of tin
And you can walk right out again as soon as you are in
There ain't no short handled shovels, no axes saws or picks
I'm a goin to stay where you sleep all day
Where they hung the jerk that invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

I'll see you all this coming fall in the Big Rock Candy Mountains

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. My grandma had a mark on her gate

that let those riding the rails know she would feed them. Grandpa was a country doctor, and would go out to lonely farmsteads to look after folks, even if they couldn't pay him a dime. Mom tells of a time that Grandma had canned some beef, and while the family was at church, someone came into the pantry and stole it. Grandpa saw who it was, but refused to prosecute because, Mom said, he knew the men's families were starving. Grandpa never was rich in money, but he was wealthy in kindness and generosity.

[tama]

3. SHTF

and it's not "if" but how soon how bad. And not regardless of what Fed and Treasury do, what they do and only thing they can do is to make it hurt worse. And worse. And worse. The sooner you get rid of them, the better. Guillotine, tar and feathers, burning at stake, any way you prefere.

Many are allready starving. On mass scale, still few years away, I guess. Riots too, and then some (what a shame really, that Obama has little choice but to become the worst fascist dictator in US history).

[damntexdem]

7. Then, things get really, really rotten.

But worry not -- not as bad as they are in Zimbabwe.

[JuniperLea]

8. I think you mean, when...

Because if something isn't done to help "we the people" there will be nothing to save.

What happens when the American dollar has so little value, the world decides another currency is more stable? This is the real question.

[bemildred]

9. You speak of this as though it has not happened yet.

Have you ever lost control while driving in snow? You never quite realize you have no control before you stop in the ditch. You keep trying to steer even though it doesn't work. So it is.

[rvablue]

12. The kind hearted and able will carve cat faces onto their back doors:

I remember one of my mom's friends telling me about this a few years ago

and so I went onto the series of tubes and found an explanation.

Nice story:


http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle_opinion/2008/10/kind_hearts_need_to_flourish_i.html


*SNIP*

They'd make their way to her back door, knock and ask if she had any work for them to do that day. She'd hand them an ax and send them toward the wood pile, asking them to chop kindling for the stove. When they were done, she'd set a plate of food -- whatever she and John were eating, whether it was just potatoes and gravy or a fine Sunday meal -- in front of them in the garage.

Times weren't plush for John and Mary. He'd lost a warehouse business during the Depression, but she always found a way to share their supper with the men and boys who showed up at her door.

The hobos knew they could count on her.

As a sign of respect, one of them had carved a cat's face on the wooden fence that ran along John and Mary's property. Even though the grapevine tangled itself around the posts and rails, the sign was clear to those who were looking for it: the sign of a Kind-Hearted Woman.


*SNIP*

[Old Codger]

13. Simpler times

Much much simpler and actually kinder, I know for sure that there are people who will do the same thing now as then, might be good for the country to be taken back to something that resembles those days , more "togetherness" so to speak.... We had a good shot at regaining some of that after 9/11 but our government threw it away ..... This country is seriously divided, the differences are so lopsided as to be ludicrous ... It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better but we will in fact come out the other end a stronger more united nation (I truly believe this)You sometimes need to go through hard times to learn to appreciate what really counts.